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On Thu, 25 Jan 2018, 12:00 , <ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com> wrote:

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> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 13:55:03 +0800
> From: Bret Busby <bret.busby at gmail.com>
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
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> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Update, Upgrade e Dist-Upgrade!
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> On 25/01/2018, C de-Avillez <hggdh2 at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 15:57:07 -0600
> > C de-Avillez <hggdh2 at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 17:32:02 -0200 (BRST)
> >> Glenio Cortes Himmen <glenio.himmen at aparecida.go.gov.br> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Srs.,
> >> >
> >> > Não estou mais conseguindo atualizar o Ubuntu 16.10 e nem trocar
> >> > para uma versão superior com o update-manager -d.
> >> >
> >> > O linux coloca a identificação Ign:xx (começando em 9 e terminando
> >> > em 136) para os site de atualização.
> >> >
> >> > Está configurado para pegar o servidor principal.
> >>
> >> 16.10 não mais é suportada (assim como 17.04, e todas as versões não
> >> LTS prévias), e foi retirado dos repositórios "normais".
> >>
> >> Em https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades detalhes de como
> >> realizar um upgrade de uma versão não mais sob suporte.
> >
> > Alias: este éum bom exemplo dos problemas resultantes da instalação de
> > versões não-LTS.
> >
> > LTS é suportada por 5 anos; não-LTS é suportada por 9 *meses*. Ao
> > instalar uma versão não-LTS, tens apenas *3 meses* (do lançamento da
> > versão +1) para um upgrade.
> >
> > Ou seja: de forma geral, é preferível que produção (e usuários casuais)
> > apenas instalem versões LTS.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > ..C..
> >
>
> WTF?
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> Bret Busby
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 13:58:43 +0800
> From: Bret Busby <bret.busby at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: synaptic on 17.10
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> On 25/01/2018, Peter Hillier-Brook <phb at hbsys.plus.com> wrote:
> > I've just upgraded a friend's machine to Ubuntu 17:10 and joined a long
> > list of people who've discovered that synaptic wont start.
> >
> > Has anyone information as to if/when this disastrous failure of testing
> > has/will be fixed?
> >
> > Peter HB
> >
> >
>
> Does this mean that 18.04 will automatically be permanently broken
> from the release date?
>
>
> --
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> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
>
> ..............
>
> "So once you do know what the question actually is,
>  you'll know what the answer means."
> - Deep Thought,
>  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
>  "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
>  A Trilogy In Four Parts",
>  written by Douglas Adams,
>  published by Pan Books, 1992
>
> ....................................................
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 10:00:31 +0100
> From: Gilles Gravier <ggravier at fsfe.org>
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> Subject: Re: synaptic on 17.10
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> 2018-01-25 6:58 GMT+01:00 Bret Busby <bret.busby at gmail.com>:
> > On 25/01/2018, Peter Hillier-Brook <phb at hbsys.plus.com> wrote:
> >> I've just upgraded a friend's machine to Ubuntu 17:10 and joined a long
> >> list of people who've discovered that synaptic wont start.
> >>
> >> Has anyone information as to if/when this disastrous failure of testing
> >> has/will be fixed?
> >>
> >
> > Does this mean that 18.04 will automatically be permanently broken
> > from the releas
>
> It's not really 18.04 that is broken, but rather Synaptic which is...
> and not yet fixed to use the new permissions model of 17.10 and
> onwards.
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