[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

[Python-ideas] Fwd: Re: PEP: add a `no` keyword as an alias for `not`

On Aug 1, 2019, at 13:38, Daniel Okey-Okoro <danielokeyokoro at gmail.com> wrote:
> > not a strong enough justification for breaking any code that uses "no" in any other way.
> This is a very crucial point I didn't consider.
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> What if we could lexically limit it to `if no {{everything else in the if block}}`?
> I think that would sufficiently protect us from unintentionally breaking people's code.

There are some cases where a ?contextual keyword? that?s usable as an identifier outside of a specific syntactic construct could avoid ambiguity, but this isn?t one of them, because the thing immediately after the `if` in an if statement can be?and often is?an identifier. For example:

    total = len(votes)
    yes, no, other = (len(part) for part in partition_votes(votes))

    if no >= total//2:
        # etc.

I even found an actual example of the equivalent in some C++ code I had on my hard drive:

    if (no == ask(?)) { 
        // ?

In Python, that would be:

    if no == ask(?):

Also, even if that weren?t a problem, this would be very misleading syntax. If I can write `if no sales:` I?d expect to be able to write `if isopen and no sales:` or `0 if no sales else mean(sales)` or `skip = no sales` or any of the other things I can do with `not` and other operators rather than special syntax.

Also, I could still write `if no sales and isopen:`, but it would do the wrong thing if `no` is special syntax that reverses the sense of the `if` rather than a normal operator that binds more tightly than `and`.