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Stefan's headers [was:Names and identifiers]


On Friday 08 June 2018 08:18:19 Chris Angelico wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 10:13 PM, Ned Batchelder <ned at nedbatchelder.com> 
wrote:
> > On 6/8/18 2:34 AM, Thomas Jollans wrote:
> >> On 07/06/18 22:36, Peter Pearson wrote:
> >>> X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 2018 Stefan Ram. All rights reserved.
> >>> Distribution through any means
> >>>    other than regular usenet channels is forbidden. It is
> >>> forbidden to publish this article in the
> >>>    Web, to change URIs of this article into links,        and to
> >>> transfer the body without this
> >>>    notice, but quotations        of parts in other Usenet posts
> >>> are allowed.
> >>
> >> As discussed previously [1], this arguably means that it's best if
> >> you don't even quote his messages if your posts are mirrored on the
> >> mailing list (as most people's are).
> >>
> >> [1].
> >> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2017-November/728635.
> >>html
> >
> > The restriction is absurd, and the idea that people will obey the
> > restriction in the headers is absurd. If Stefan posts to a newsgroup
> > in this day and age, he knows full well that his words will end up
> > on http servers somewhere.  He needs to get over it, or stop posting
> > to newsgroups.
>
> Are news servers guaranteed to carry the X-Copyright header in all
> transmissions? If not, the copyright notice isn't part of the message,
> and is most likely unenforceable.
>
> ChrisA

As the courts have so found when this has come up over the last 30 years. 
Basically, its just some newly minted lawyer trying to earn his place at 
the feeding trough.

It does have a tendency to scare off the copyright violators that can't 
afford a legal dept, pushing them under the bus.

Copyrights, Patents, often interchangeable in civil court, and
having been the victim  (because I was the designated Chief Operator at a 
tv station) of a frivolous patent that attacked every broadcast facility 
in the US, demanding royalties in the 5 digit range per month for 
implementing what the FCC edict said we had to do WRT the EAS system. 

The courts weren't amused. I don't know as any of us ever cut those 
patent troll turkey's a check, but if they did, they were also awarded 
triple damages. I've not heard that name in the press since. Probably 
changed to protect the guilty.

-- 
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