Even Older Man Yells At Whippersnappers
On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Rhodri James <rhodri at kynesim.co.uk> wrote:
> On 19/09/17 16:59, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> On 2017-09-19, Rhodri James <rhodri at kynesim.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 19/09/17 16:00, Stefan Ram wrote:
>>>> D'Arcy Cain <darcy at VybeNetworks.com> writes:
>>>>> of course, I use calculators and computers but I still understand the
>>>>> theory behind what I am doing.
>>>> I started out programming in BASIC. Today, I use Python,
>>>> the BASIC of the 21st century. Python has no GOTO, but when
>>>> it is executed, its for loop eventually is implemented using
>>>> a GOTO-like jump instruction. Thanks to my learning of BASIC,
>>>> /I/ can have this insight. Younger people, who never learned
>>>> GOTO, may still be able to use Python, but they will not
>>>> understand what is going on behind the curtains. Therefore, for
>>>> a profound understanding of Python, everyone should learn BASIC
>>>> first, just like I did!
>>> Tsk. You should have learned (a fake simplified) assembler first, then
>>> you'd have an appreciation of what your processor actually did.
>> Tsk, Tsk. Before learning assembly, you should design an instruction
>> set and implement it in hardare. Or at least run in in a VHDL
>> simulator. [Actually, back in my undergrad days we used AHPL and
>> implemented something like a simplified PDP-11 ISA.]
> Eh, my school never 'ad an electronics class, nor a computer neither. Made
> programming a bit tricky; we 'ad to write programs on a form and send 'em
> off to next county. None of this new-fangled VHDL neither, we 'ad to do
> our simulations with paper and pencil.
> (All true, as it happens. My school acquired a computer (just the one: a
> NorthStar Horizon) in my O-Level year, but before that we really did have
> to send programs off to Worcester where someone would laboriously type them
> in for you. A week later you got a print out of the results and a roll of
> paper tape with your program on it.)
> Rhodri James *-* Kynesim Ltd
What happened if there was a bug? Did you have to re-send it?