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[Python-Dev] Sub-interpreters: importing numpy causes hang


There are currently numerous incompatibilities between numpy and
subinterpreters, and no concrete plan for fixing them. The numpy team does
not consider subinterpreters to be a supported configuration, and can't
help you with any issues you run into. I know the concept of
subinterpreters is really appealing, but unfortunately the CPython
implementation is not really mature or widely supported... are you
absolutely certain you need to use subinterpreters for your application?

On Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 08:27 Stephan Reiter <stephan.reiter at gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> I am new to the list and arriving with a concrete problem that I'd
> like to fix myself.
>
> I am embedding Python (3.6) into my C++ application and I would like
> to run Python scripts isolated from each other using sub-interpreters.
> I am not using threads; everything is supposed to run in the
> application's main thread.
>
> I noticed that if I create an interpreter, switch to it and execute
> code that imports numpy (1.13), my application will hang.
>
>   ntdll.dll!NtWaitForSingleObject() Unknown
>   KernelBase.dll!WaitForSingleObjectEx() Unknown
> > python36.dll!_PyCOND_WAIT_MS(_PyCOND_T * cv=0x00000000748a67a0,
> _RTL_CRITICAL_SECTION * cs=0x00000000748a6778, unsigned long ms=5) Line 245
> C
>   [Inline Frame] python36.dll!PyCOND_TIMEDWAIT(_PyCOND_T *) Line 275 C
>   python36.dll!take_gil(_ts * tstate=0x0000023251cbc260) Line 224 C
>   python36.dll!PyEval_RestoreThread(_ts * tstate=0x0000023251cbc260) Line
> 370 C
>   python36.dll!PyGILState_Ensure() Line 855 C
>   umath.cp36-win_amd64.pyd!00007ff8c6306ab2() Unknown
>   umath.cp36-win_amd64.pyd!00007ff8c630723c() Unknown
>   umath.cp36-win_amd64.pyd!00007ff8c6303a1d() Unknown
>   umath.cp36-win_amd64.pyd!00007ff8c63077c0() Unknown
>   umath.cp36-win_amd64.pyd!00007ff8c62ff926() Unknown
>   [Inline Frame] python36.dll!_PyObject_FastCallDict(_object *) Line 2316 C
>   [Inline Frame] python36.dll!_PyObject_FastCallKeywords(_object *) Line
> 2480 C
>   python36.dll!call_function(_object * * *
> pp_stack=0x00000048be5f5e40, __int64 oparg, _object * kwnames) Line
> 4822 C
>
> Numpy's extension umath calls PyGILState_Ensure(), which in turn calls
> PyEval_RestoreThread on the (auto) threadstate of the main
> interpreter. And that's wrong.
> We are already holding the GIL with the threadstate of our current
> sub-interpreter, so there's no need to switch.
>
> I know that the GIL API is not fully compatible with sub-interpreters,
> as issues #10915 and #15751 illustrate.
>
> But since I need to support calls to PyGILState_Ensure - numpy is the
> best example -, I am trying to improve the situation here:
>
> https://github.com/stephanreiter/cpython/commit/d9d3451b038af2820f500843b6a88f57270e1597
>
> That change may be naive, but it does the trick for my use case. If
> totally wrong, I don't mind pursuing another alley.
>
> Essentially, I'd like to ask for some guidance in how to tackle this
> problem while keeping the current GIL API unchanged (to avoid breaking
> modules).
>
> I am also wondering how I can test any changes I am proposing. Is
> there a test suite for interpreters, for example?
>
> Thank you very much,
> Stephan
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