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[Python-Dev] PEP 572: Assignment Expressions -- intention to accept, near-final draft


On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 7:40 PM, Glenn Linderman <v+python at g.nevcal.com>
wrote:

> On 7/9/2018 6:00 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
>
>   This rule is included to simplify the choice for the user between an
>   assignment statements and an assignment expression -- there is no
>
>
> "statements" should not be plural in the above line.
>

Will fix.

  syntactic position where both are valid.
>
>
>
> An exception to this special case applies when the target name is the
> same as a loop control variable for a comprehension containing it.
> This is invalid.  This exception exists to rule out edge cases of the
> above scope rules as illustrated by ``[i := i+1 for i in range(5)]``
> or ``[[(j := j) for i in range(5)] for j in range(5)]``.  Note that
> this exception also applies to ``[i := 0 for i, j in stuff]``, as well
> as to cases like ``[i+1 for i in i := stuff]``.
>
>
>
> It is unclear whether exactly what is invalid. Is the use of the target
> name that is the same as (any of the nested) loop control variable invalid?
> I think, from discussions, that that is what is meant. But this paragraph
> could be interpreted as meaning the special case doesn't apply, meaning
> that the target name would be in a "sublocal" scope.
>

Really? If it didn't say "this is invalid" I could see that "exception to
the special case" might be interpreted as "the special case doesn't apply".
But with "This is invalid" explicitly added I don't see how that
interpretation could be valid. Is it clearer if I changed that to "Such
code is invalid"? Or perhaps I should move "This is invalid" to the end of
the paragraph?


> The ``:=`` operator groups more tightly than a comma in all syntactic
> positions where it is legal, but less tightly than all operators,
>
>
> If comma is considered an operator, this sentence is inconsistent, would
> need to be "all other operators".  Even if comma is not considered an
> operator, the sentence would be more clear with "other" added, since ":="
> is an operator.
>

Makes sense.

-- 
--Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
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