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Re: Part II: Corporate Desktop Linux - The Hard Truth (Score: 1, Informative)
by Anonymous on Feb 12, 2005 - 11:41 AM
Software obsolescence is also something that should be taken into account, especially on the server side. How many perfectly working NT machines are now endangered simply because Microsoft has decided that NT is no longer supported?


I've noticed that servers in particular tend to be installed and left running. With something like Linux, that "left running" may mean that it never goes down. Since the OS doesn't crash, applications starting and stopping or even crashing doesn't effect it, and live files can be backed up (unlike Windows).


I recently worked on a rather beefy e-commerce server running RedHat 7.3. The boot partition had been corrupted (don't ask me how!) and it had the original CDs, so it was back up and running in about 20 minutes. That's about 40 minutes of hard downtime since it was installed when RH7.3 was new. There was no reason at all to change to a newer version, and present day software runs on it just fine.


Compare this to weekly theraputic reboots for Windows servers in order to balance the application "integration" into the core OS that Microsoft seems so proud of. Taking down the online e-commerce applications in order to back up the databases, or for that matter every database. Microsoft deciding that something like NT is no longer supported, and of course you don't have source to even consider paying a developer to fix something found later.


Windows has support costs even when there aren't stupid user tricks, cracks, viruses, &etc.



Re: Part II: Corporate Desktop Linux - The Hard Truth (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Feb 15, 2005 - 08:35 PM
He makes mention of this at the end. This merely covered the software end of making the switch, and not time spent.


Re: Part II: Corporate Desktop Linux - The Hard Truth (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Feb 16, 2005 - 07:16 AM
It all boils down to how you do your security. It is quit different in my enterprise where as we do not spend as much time going to desktop to desktop because we limit access to the local machine, use tools such as SMS/SUS to deploy patches for both the OS and client software, use an Enterprise Anti-Virus solution, and have a well balance of security/group policies to eliminate unnecessary programs from running on the client machine. In fact both our Windows server and desktop environment is very stable and only takes up 5% of the Administrators support time.

Here is what is interesting in my enterprise. We have 500+ Windows servers and ~50 Sun Servers (UNIX). We currently have 3 people managing and supporting the Windows servers while we have 3 supporting the UNIX servers. In every analysis I read we should have 4x as much Windows Administrators due to the stability of the Windows product, but that is not the case as we have more UNIX administrators vs. Windows administrators per server.

I am not arguing that Linux could lower TCO; I am arguing that your argument is based on poor management of your environment.

Jim



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