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"Sanlig Badral (sbadral)" wrote on 2003-03-26 17:41 UTC:
> Can you please add the Mongolian letters (04E8, 04E9 and 04AE, 04AF)
> and tugrik-sign (please see attachment) to the fonts in the package
> xFree-fonts.

The characters

04AE # CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER STRAIGHT U
04AF # CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER STRAIGHT U
04E8 # CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER BARRED O
04E9 # CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER BARRED O
20AE # TUGRIK SIGN

that you requested are already part of the TARGET3 repertoire and are
therefore present in the five big fonts that match this very
comprehensive Unicode repertoire:

6x13.bdf -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1
8x13.bdf -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-120-75-75-c-80-iso10646-1
9x15.bdf -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-140-75-75-c-90-iso10646-1
9x18.bdf -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso10646-1
10x20.bdf -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-200-75-75-c-100-iso10646-1

Are there any particular other -misc-fixed-* fonts in which you need
these five characters? They could be added fairly easily to any of these
public domain core fonts, though doing it for all of them is
time-consuming manual labour, therefore a priority list or bdf patch
would help to get started:

6x12.bdf -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--12-110-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1
6x10.bdf -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-100-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1
7x13.bdf -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-120-75-75-c-70-iso10646-1
7x14.bdf -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-70-iso10646-1
6x9.bdf -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--9-90-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1
5x7.bdf -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--7-70-75-75-c-50-iso10646-1
4x6.bdf -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--6-60-75-75-c-40-iso10646-1
5x8.bdf -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--8-80-75-75-c-50-iso10646-1
6x13B.bdf -misc-fixed-bold-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1
6x13O.bdf -misc-fixed-medium-o-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1
7x13B.bdf -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-120-75-75-c-70-iso10646-1
7x13O.bdf -misc-fixed-medium-o-normal--13-120-75-75-c-70-iso10646-1
7x14B.bdf -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-70-iso10646-1
8x13B.bdf -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-120-75-75-c-80-iso10646-1
9x18B.bdf -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso10646-1
8x13O.bdf -misc-fixed-medium-o-normal--13-120-75-75-c-80-iso10646-1
9x15B.bdf -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--15-140-75-75-c-90-iso10646-1

We can't add them easily to the Adobe and B&H fonts though, because
these are merely automatically precomposition-extended versions of
original PostScript standard encoding fonts. But these fonts don't have
any of the other Cyrilic characters either.

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs-fonts.html

Markus

--
Markus Kuhn, Computer Lab, Univ of Cambridge, GB
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ | __oo_O..O_oo__


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Cyrillic fonts (Re: request)

On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Markus Kuhn wrote: > "Sanlig Badral (sbadral)" wrote on 2003-03-26 17:41 UTC: > > Can you please add the Mongolian letters (04E8, 04E9 and 04AE, 04AF) > > and tugrik-sign (please see attachment) to the fonts in the package > > xFree-fonts. > > I couldn't find any attachement. If you want to make a contribution to > the -misc-fixed-* fonts, best read the README file in > > http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/download/ucs-fonts.tar.gz Markus, I have made cyrillic letters for most -misc-fixed-* and for 75dpi/{tim,lu,lut,helv,cour}*.bdf, and those include 04E8,04E9 in all fonts, plus 04AE,04AF in about a dozen. These are packaged by most modern Linux distros (e.g. fonts-KOI8-R-*.rpm in RedHat). What should I do for inclusion of those glyphs into XFree86 distribution? (I suppose that simply e-mailing either complete set of bdf files or a diff would make too weighty submission :-) (Sometime in 2002 Leon Canter have contacted you about these fonts, but that was time just before 4.3 feature freeze...) With best regards, Dmitry Bolkhovityanov _________________________________________ Dmitry Yu. Bolkhovityanov The Budker Institute of Nuclear Physics Novosibirsk, Russia

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Re: Adding Cyrillic to Adobe/B&H ISO 10646-1 core fonts

"Dmitry Yu. Bolkhovityanov" wrote on 2003-04-01 04:19 UTC: > Markus, I have made cyrillic letters for most -misc-fixed-* and > for 75dpi/{tim,lu,lut,helv,cour}*.bdf, and those include 04E8,04E9 in all > fonts, plus 04AE,04AF in about a dozen. These are packaged by most modern > Linux distros (e.g. fonts-KOI8-R-*.rpm in RedHat). > > What should I do for inclusion of those glyphs into XFree86 > distribution? (I suppose that simply e-mailing either complete set of bdf > files or a diff would make too weighty submission :-) > > (Sometime in 2002 Leon Canter have contacted you about these > fonts, but that was time just before 4.3 feature freeze...) I still have Leon's mails archived and looking at merging these Cyrillic fonts into the ISO 10646-1 extended Adobe/B&H core fonts on http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/download/ucs-fonts-75dpi100dpi.tar.gz and via that also into XFree86. This is still on my to-do list. Apart from simply having lacked the time to do it so far, what I am unsure about is the legal question whether we would, after merging your glyphs in, still be allowed to call the resulting fonts "Adobe" and "B&H" fonts in the XLFD. Your extension would actually add new glyphs that were not originated or approved by the owner of the original fonts. What I did to these fonts so far was merely to combine/ precompose existing Adobe and B&H glyphs. One option is to rename these fonts into -XFree86-Helvetica-*, etc., but that wouldn't make your glyphs available easily to existing applications that ask for the traditional XLFDs with company names. I have no idea, how much would break (technically and legally) if we removed the company names from these ancient donated pixel fonts and replaced it with XFree86 before adding our own glyphs. I'm also not sure whether keeping aliases would help, and doubling the number of font files (keeping both an Adobe/B&H and an extended Xfree86 version) sounds wasteful and unelegant. Any suggestions on what the names and XLFDs of Adobe and B&H pixel BDFs with added third-party glyphs should be are welcome, especially from the X Consortium veterans that added these core fonts in the first place. Markus -- Markus Kuhn, Computer Lab, Univ of Cambridge, GB http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ | __oo_O..O_oo__

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Cyrillic fonts (Re: request)

On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Markus Kuhn wrote: > "Sanlig Badral (sbadral)" wrote on 2003-03-26 17:41 UTC: > > Can you please add the Mongolian letters (04E8, 04E9 and 04AE, 04AF) > > and tugrik-sign (please see attachment) to the fonts in the package > > xFree-fonts. > > I couldn't find any attachement. If you want to make a contribution to > the -misc-fixed-* fonts, best read the README file in > > http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/download/ucs-fonts.tar.gz Markus, I have made cyrillic letters for most -misc-fixed-* and for 75dpi/{tim,lu,lut,helv,cour}*.bdf, and those include 04E8,04E9 in all fonts, plus 04AE,04AF in about a dozen. These are packaged by most modern Linux distros (e.g. fonts-KOI8-R-*.rpm in RedHat). What should I do for inclusion of those glyphs into XFree86 distribution? (I suppose that simply e-mailing either complete set of bdf files or a diff would make too weighty submission :-) (Sometime in 2002 Leon Canter have contacted you about these fonts, but that was time just before 4.3 feature freeze...) With best regards, Dmitry Bolkhovityanov _________________________________________ Dmitry Yu. Bolkhovityanov The Budker Institute of Nuclear Physics Novosibirsk, Russia

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> From: kenneth campbell <kcampbell@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: fonts@xxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [Fonts] can't open default font 'fixed' > Date: 01 Apr 2003 10:10:31 -0500 > > Here is the log file. > Thanks > You probably have a problem with the permission of the files /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.dir (one RPM upgrade made them readable only by root). Just do (as root) chmod a+r /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.* and restart xfs (service xfs restart). It should work after that. Best, Diego -- ------------------------------------------------------- Diego Santa Cruz PhD. student Publications available at http://ltswww.epfl.ch/~dsanta Signal Processing Institute (LTS1 / ITS / STI) Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (EPFL) EPFL - STI - ITS, CH-1015 Lausanne, Switzerland E-mail: Diego.SantaCruz@xxxxxxx Phone: +41 - 21 - 693 26 57 Fax: +41 - 21 - 693 76 00 -------------------------------------------------------
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