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Hi,
leonerd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (2007-05-15 at 2236.34 +0100):
> > I'm a long time sawfish user and it is very sad for me that this
> > project is more-or-less dead.
[...]
> Was there some feature in particular you were looking for, some bug
> fixing, something changed?

Font/text support could get some polish, iirc only one Pango font
allowed at any time, still some issues with UTF8. Then there is a
general review to make things (naming, etc) more orthogonal. And about
features, compositor could be interesting for things like more snappy
feel or focus glow/shadow (I am not much into making a wm be 80s demo
scene, but it has some uses, and experiments could be nice, like doing
glow instead of shadow... I just remembered all the weird themes SF
had :] ... or interesting tricks like Metisse with its facades to
rearrange interfaces).

GSR




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Re: Is there anything comparable out-there?

On Tue, 15 May 2007 14:18:16 +0200 Janek Kozicki <janek_listy@xxxxx> wrote: > I'm a long time sawfish user and it is very sad for me that this > project is more-or-less dead. Out of interest, what makes you say that? I use sawfish on all my machines and, while it's probably fair to say it hasn't had any major updates in quite a while, I find that it doesn't really need any. There's nothing I can think of I'd like it to do that it doesn't already. Was there some feature in particular you were looking for, some bug fixing, something changed? -- Paul "LeoNerd" Evans leonerd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ICQ# 4135350 | Registered Linux# 179460 http://www.leonerd.org.uk/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature

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There are bug fixes in the CVS tree that are not in the last release. As I recall, there is an essential 64-bit fix that is not in the release. FreeBSD ports system builds from releases, not arbitrary source checkouts, so fixes are not available without building by hand. Fedore core/centos don't seem to have sawfish RPMs available. When I request sawfish, my admins just say, "no RPMs, it's dead, go away". I have yet to get the CVS version to build on CentOS 4.4. The appearance of being dead keeps people from trying it, leading to more disinterest and lack of availability. cheers, mark Paul LeoNerd Evans <leonerd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > On Tue, 15 May 2007 14:18:16 +0200 > Janek Kozicki <janek_listy@xxxxx> wrote: > > > I'm a long time sawfish user and it is very sad for me that this > > project is more-or-less dead. > > Out of interest, what makes you say that? > > I use sawfish on all my machines and, while it's probably fair to say it > hasn't had any major updates in quite a while, I find that it doesn't > really need any. There's nothing I can think of I'd like it to do that it > doesn't already. > > Was there some feature in particular you were looking for, some bug > fixing, something changed?

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On Tue, 15 May 2007 14:18:16 +0200 Janek Kozicki <janek_listy@xxxxx> wrote: > I'm a long time sawfish user and it is very sad for me that this > project is more-or-less dead. Out of interest, what makes you say that? I use sawfish on all my machines and, while it's probably fair to say it hasn't had any major updates in quite a while, I find that it doesn't really need any. There's nothing I can think of I'd like it to do that it doesn't already. Was there some feature in particular you were looking for, some bug fixing, something changed? -- Paul "LeoNerd" Evans leonerd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ICQ# 4135350 | Registered Linux# 179460 http://www.leonerd.org.uk/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature

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Re: Is there anything comparable out-there?

There are bug fixes in the CVS tree that are not in the last release. As I recall, there is an essential 64-bit fix that is not in the release. FreeBSD ports system builds from releases, not arbitrary source checkouts, so fixes are not available without building by hand. Fedore core/centos don't seem to have sawfish RPMs available. When I request sawfish, my admins just say, "no RPMs, it's dead, go away". I have yet to get the CVS version to build on CentOS 4.4. The appearance of being dead keeps people from trying it, leading to more disinterest and lack of availability. cheers, mark Paul LeoNerd Evans <leonerd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > On Tue, 15 May 2007 14:18:16 +0200 > Janek Kozicki <janek_listy@xxxxx> wrote: > > > I'm a long time sawfish user and it is very sad for me that this > > project is more-or-less dead. > > Out of interest, what makes you say that? > > I use sawfish on all my machines and, while it's probably fair to say it > hasn't had any major updates in quite a while, I find that it doesn't > really need any. There's nothing I can think of I'd like it to do that it > doesn't already. > > Was there some feature in particular you were looking for, some bug > fixing, something changed?
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