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Subject: [Wiki-research-l] Introducing Diederik van Liere -
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Hello Everyone,
I wanted to take a moment to introduce Diederik van Liere [1].
Diederik will be working with the Foundation on some research
projects to help the community get a better understanding of
editor patterns on Wikipedia. Below is a note from Diederik which
gives some insight into his research experience and interests. He
has done some interesting and relevant work on online communities,
most recently as a post-doc at the Rotman School of Management at
the University of Toronto. We're excited to have him as a
research consultant, so please join me in welcoming him!
Howie
[1] http://ca.linkedin.com/in/diederikvanliere
Diederik van Liere
My name is Diederik van Liere and I am a research consultant at the Wikimedia Foundation. I started last week on a project, in collaboration with Howie Fung and Erik Moeller, to better understand the editor dynamics of the different Wikipedia sites. My research interests are around the broad theme of community management and community effectiveness and in particular how online tools can help in that regard. I have researched open source communities such as Firefox and Thunderbird in my previous position at the Rotman School of Management. I enjoy all phases of quantitative research: writing custom data parsers, parallelizing 'big data' challenges, and building statistical models to gain more detailed answers to research questions. I have an interest in developing tools that will allow for parallelized / distributed data processing in order to shorten processing time and get answers back to the community faster.
I am excited to be part of this community because I strongly identify with Wikimedia's mission of making knowledge globally accessible and I am looking forward to the on- and offline collaborations with you. In the mean time, you will see the firsts posts about the Editor Dynamics project appearing on this mailing list and (soon) the Strategy Wiki. Feel free to drop me an email (dvanliere at gmail dot com) whenever you have a question about these topics.
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Foundation-l] How to improve quality of Wikipedia?
--- El dom, 10/10/10, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki@xxxxxxxxx> escribió:
> De: Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki@xxxxxxxxx>
> Asunto: Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Foundation-l] How to improve quality of
> Wikipedia?
> Para: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" <foundation-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> CC: "Research into Wikimedia content and communities"
> <wiki-research-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Fecha: domingo, 10 de octubre, 2010 19:45
> Przykuta, 10/10/2010 19:17:
> > Old talk pages with solved problems are deleted.
>
>
> This is extremely strange. Talk pages are part of the
> article history.
> Ortega's thesis should be updated, perhaps.
> «The combination of a very active cohort of bots,
> together
> with the very low ratio of talk pages, indicates that the
> Polish
> language version is not following the
> same organizational pattern found in other language
> editions. Such a low
> ratio of talk pages points out
> the little effort undertaken on coordination actions and
> discussion
> about article contents in the Polish
> version.»
> (http://libresoft.es/Members/jfelipe/phd-thesis , p.
> 91)
>
Thanks for pointing out this, Nemo. I might have missed the thread in
Foundation-l otherwise :).
Well, at least this gives a partial explanation for the very low ratio of
available talk pages, though I personally think it is not enough to explain
such a really really low figure.
In fact, I concur that this is very strange. As far as I have understood up to
now, talk pages also serve as a backup log of past discussions for new users
approaching an article for the first time. If this is true, then in PL some new
editor of an article might run the risk of raising again a issue or a
contribution that was already discussed a year ago by editors working on that
article.
Best,
Felipe.
> > Talk pages of dynamic IP are deleted too (we wait ~6
> months and delete them by bot). I don't know - is it
> standard behavior in other Wikiepdias or specific for pl.
>
> This isn't very relevant. On it.wiki they used to be
> deleted by
> (unapproved) bots (run under sysop accounts); since some
> years they're
> just replaced with a "welcome IP" template every month if
> they're more
> than a month old.
>
> >> * Finally, Polish Wikipedia has fewer active users
> than any of the
> >> next three "smaller" Wikipedias - Italian,
> Japanese and Spanish -
> >> which might be significant here. Fewer users talk
> less, so there's
> >> fewer "natural" discussion pages.
> >>
> >
> > True - we have only ~300 very active users. We rather
> use main. One of the most often used slogan is "we work
> here, not talk". Many times we spend in "flagged revisions"
> - so, we are sure, that 90% are free of vandalism.
>
> This is very important. The real question is: how can
> pl.wiki be so big
> (and useful, looking at pageviews) with such a little
> editor base? Seems
> a good result.
>
> Nemo
>
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[Wiki-research-l] New tracking page for research projects
Hello all,
I've created http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research/Projects as a new
canonical tracking page for research projects that are either
currently underway, or that have been recently completed.
If you're currently conducting Wikimedia-related research projects,
please list them on this page. For those not comfortable with
wiki-tables, there's a simple submission form as well.
Feel free to make the page or workflow more useful if you have any
ideas for doing so :-)
Thanks and all best,
Erik
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Przykuta, 10/10/2010 19:17:
> Old talk pages with solved problems are deleted.
This is extremely strange. Talk pages are part of the article history.
Ortega's thesis should be updated, perhaps.
ÂThe combination of a very active cohort of bots, together
with the very low ratio of talk pages, indicates that the Polish
language version is not following the
same organizational pattern found in other language editions. Such a low
ratio of talk pages points out
the little effort undertaken on coordination actions and discussion
about article contents in the Polish
version.Â
(http://libresoft.es/Members/jfelipe/phd-thesis , p. 91)
> Talk pages of dynamic IP are deleted too (we wait ~6 months and delete them
> by bot). I don't know - is it standard behavior in other Wikiepdias or
> specific for pl.
This isn't very relevant. On it.wiki they used to be deleted by
(unapproved) bots (run under sysop accounts); since some years they're
just replaced with a "welcome IP" template every month if they're more
than a month old.
>> * Finally, Polish Wikipedia has fewer active users than any of the
>> next three "smaller" Wikipedias - Italian, Japanese and Spanish -
>> which might be significant here. Fewer users talk less, so there's
>> fewer "natural" discussion pages.
>>
>
> True - we have only ~300 very active users. We rather use main. One of the
> most often used slogan is "we work here, not talk". Many times we spend in
> "flagged revisions" - so, we are sure, that 90% are free of vandalism.
This is very important. The real question is: how can pl.wiki be so big
(and useful, looking at pageviews) with such a little editor base? Seems
a good result.
Nemo
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[Wiki-research-l] New tracking page for research projects
Hello all,
I've created http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research/Projects as a new
canonical tracking page for research projects that are either
currently underway, or that have been recently completed.
If you're currently conducting Wikimedia-related research projects,
please list them on this page. For those not comfortable with
wiki-tables, there's a simple submission form as well.
Feel free to make the page or workflow more useful if you have any
ideas for doing so :-)
Thanks and all best,
Erik
--
Erik Möller
Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation
Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
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