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Subject: RE: Permissions for index.php -- hide MySQL password?


From: Robert Dodier <robert_dodier@xxxxxxxxx>
To: phpwiki-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Phpwiki-talk] Permissions for index.php -- hide MySQL password?
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:55:43 -0800 (PST)

Hello everyone,

I've installed PhpWiki on my project website at SourceForge
and I have to say, it is really terrific! Thanks to the
development team for a job well done.

I have a question about the MySQL password. I see that I
can put the admin password in index.php in encrypted form --
that's great. But can I also encrypt the MySQL password?

It seems like a security problem, since index.php must be
readable by the web server; it might be possible for anyone
with a login on the project servers to read the MySQL password.

I've read through archives for PHP, MySQL, and PhpWiki, but
there doesn't seem to be a definitive solution. It seems the
standard operating procedure is to ask the SF sysadmins to
"chgrp nobody index.php". Is there another way?

It may be not so much of an issue, since by design, a wiki
is pretty much wide open for abuse anyway. But it seems
like the MySQL-password-in-a-script problem must be
generic to many SF projects that use MySQL.

How was this problem solved for the PhpWiki project
demonstration wiki?

Thanks for any light you can shed on this issue --

Robert Dodier

I saw someone also post recently about using a .htaccess file (presumably using Basic Authentication) which is really perhaps not a good idea considering the password gets sent in the clear. Also noticed the suggestion to use mod_auth_mysql. But getting back to the idea of authenticating for access to a PHPWiki instance via the context of .htaccess (or directory context in httpd.conf, etc.) ... what about the possibility of using Digest Authentication (mod_auth_digest)? I know its still considered experimental by Apache since the server doesn't check the nonce reflected by the browser (and for a while there was a problem with browsers not supporting MD5 digest authentication), but most modern day browsers I think are now supporting digest access. Perhaps its overkill to use both digest (such as at the Wiki's root directory such that .htaccess files are not constantly being parsed by httpd for every request in subrealms)? Just an idea perhaps worth contemplating.

Peace on Earth,

Serj

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