[ tidy-Support Requests-691011 ] Cannot tidy Word HTML (if you can call it that)

Support Requests item #691011, was opened at 2003-02-21 18:51
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Category: Usage Problem
Group: Current - all platforms
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Ben Noblet (bnoblet)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: Cannot tidy Word HTML (if you can call it that)

Initial Comment:
Thanks guys for a great job ... TidyLib is great and it 
usually does exactly what we need it to.

Unfortunately it seems MS-Word is producing even 
more hokey HTML than ever before.

I have a document pasted from Word which contains <?
xml> directives and smarttags (<st1:xx> etc) and all 
manner of other rubbish.

Very little or none of the text seem to end up in the 
tidied document with any combination of options I can 
configure.  I use TidyATL (COM) but have been testing 
this using the TidyUI as well.

Am I doing something wrong?  Is this document just too 
bad to be tidied?

Thanks
Ben


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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2005-08-10 03:59

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>From Slashdot - 

"Yes, Office 2000 has the above tool- and Office 2002 or 2003 
has it on the Save As menu. The option you want is "Web 
Page (filtered)|*.html". I saw an interview once with somebody 
on the Word development team, and he claimed that the 
original Save As HTML was built for passing Word Documents 
over the web- and never meant to be read by human beings as 
a web page at all. Web Page (filtered) cuts out all the extra 
shyte that Save As HTML used to put in for managing version 
controled updates and changing the font every bloody 
character- and builds a real web page."

http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/05/08/09/170209.shtml?
tid=215&tid=95&tid=4

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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2004-05-12 03:36

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i believe this is related to tidy's lack of namespace support:

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=743952&group_id=27659&atid=390966

the dodgywordhtml.htm included is just a table, and is
missing the namespace declaration which you can see on this
bug report:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/html-tidy/2003OctDec/0053.html

hope that helps,

- p


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Comment By: Nick Morley (nmorley)
Date: 2003-03-11 08:44

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Ben,

I am having exactly the same issue a you.  It appears that 
word XP as opposed to the older 2000 version is the culprit.  
It adds loads more tags that HTML tidy falls over on.

The <st:xx> ones you mention as well as <o;p> and loads 
more.

I am trying to output my file as XHTML and I have tried every 
combination of options to achieve this to no avail?

Anyone any wiser?

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Comment By: Terry Teague (terry_teague)
Date: 2003-02-21 19:58

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What are the options you are trying? Do you want HTML output, XHTML 
output or XML output? Do you have any control over how the MS Word 
document is converted to HTML?

I tried a few things on your sample input, that would produce output 
(such as using "--force-output yes" or declaring new tags that 
matched 
the smarttags), but I couldn't get rid of the <?xml> directive(s).

I'm not the MS-Word HTML guru. Maybe someone else will answer.

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