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Re: Re: Maintaining 'stable' and 'development' versionsof a repository (hop: msg#00009

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Subject: Re: Re: Maintaining 'stable' and 'development' versionsof a repository (hopeless newbie question)

[I guess you may have meant to reply to the list. Apologies if you didn't.]

Chris Siebenmann wrote:

My personal opinion is that this is somewhat like putting people
in straightjackets to keep them from scratching their poison ivy
rashes. It's guaranteed to work, but ...

I like things that are guaranteed to work, better than things that are not guaranteed to work. At least then I know where I stand ;)

It will be interesting to see how future versions of BK deal with this. I suspect we'll just have a cleaner interface for moving changesets around, but changesets applied in a different order from a given common ancestor will have different changeset keys even though they have the same content.

(Of course to go for some lesser measure of dependency requires
either semantic knowledge of the repository content or using
imperfect mechanistic checks, like 'changes different files'.

My intuition is yelling "nooooooooooooo!". Sounds a bit messy.

But people do keep making and making this mistake, so clearly
it's human nature to work this way.)

Often, though, things are counterintuitive as with this example. It would be nice to bend reality to work with the expectations of human nature though :)

You are right, that it seems to be human nature to assume that it works this way. I've done a few presentations involving BK and usually bring up revtool. Invariably after explaining the graph, I get the question "what if you want to grab that one and that one, but not that one?".


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