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RE: OT: Printer SPAM?

This would be a good (evil) use for embedded linux. Attach a Linux pda to a reprogrammed aibo with a solar panel, gps and a wifi. Program the aibo to go from neighborhood to neighborhood spamming the residents. Then as the $$$$ roll in keep adding more and more warspammingaibos until there is a wild pack roaming the known world. Today Overland Park. Tommorow the world!!!! Mwuaa hahahahaha! > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Clinton > > On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 09:29, Leo J Mauler wrote: > > "Warspamming"? > > The man power to do that effictively (with <1% response rate) would > probably be astronomically expensive making it impractical for the > average spammer. ... Not to discount the ability for /other/ interests > to make use of these unsecured networks... anonymous internet anyone?

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Too much man power required to drive around to all the wireless networks, plus if any kind of logging is going on it's likely they could capture your MAC address from the message you send to the printer. You could alter your MAC, but most people won't go to that trouble. There was a posting either on this list or Slashdot from someone that was wardriving and found some unsecured networks. What should he ethically do? Notify them of there unprotected status or do nothing? How to notify them? Send a message to their shared printer, email, letter, burning bush, hack the server? I think the final consensus was to anonymously send a note or do nothing, lest he be accused of malicious activity. How much is someone else's stupidity worth to you. If you know it is your neighbor you could mention it off hand, by the way I can see the pr0n on your shared directory over wireless. Or if it is a company across the street from your's and you are friendly w/ the admin, you could drop some hints and advice. But you probably don't want your fingerprints on anything like a letter and don't want them to think you were browsing their private network to see what was open. Use a set of rubber gloves to handle a printout w/ a link to a wireless lockdown! howto. Leave it on the doorstep. This may not apply to you as it was probably just a home network, but was meant to be a general broad statement. Brian Kelsay >>> Leo J Mauler <> 04/15/04 09:29AM >>> <snip> So I'm thinking about this, that I can print anything I want to their printers from the safety and security of my own home. I could moon them over the wireless network, or send their printers letters and photos from "the other woman". Or print SPAM on their printers. So what with email becoming a chore and laws cracking down on spammers, and existing fax laws probably not applying to printing to network printers over a wireless network, anyone else think someone will come up with SPAM print jobs by sitting in a parking lot and printing to all the local wireless printers? "Warspamming"?

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On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 09:29, Leo J Mauler wrote: > "Warspamming"? The man power to do that effictively (with <1% response rate) would probably be astronomically expensive making it impractical for the average spammer. ... Not to discount the ability for /other/ interests to make use of these unsecured networks... anonymous internet anyone? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

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Hi, On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 09:29:01AM -0500, Leo J Mauler wrote: > So I'm sitting here securing my wireless network, and just for fun I look > around at the other wireless networks in the neighborhood. > > And there are two other wireless networks in the neighborhood, neither > one is secured, and both have network printers accessible via Samba > without passwords. > > So I'm thinking about this, that I can print anything I want to their > printers from the safety and security of my own home. I could moon them > over the wireless network, or send their printers letters and photos from > "the other woman". Or print SPAM on their printers. Something similar happened to me several years ago. Late one night I noticed that I wasn't the only one using my computer. Someone was looking around because I had left anonymous FTP enabled. When I nmap'ed the guy I noticed that he had port 515 (remote line printer) open. So I created an 8-1/2 x 11 jpeg with all pixels black and printed 99 copies on his printer. I also printed him a copy of my kernel (since he must have been a computer whiz I didn't want to insult him with the kernel source, I printed him the binary of my kernel). I think my art work must have impressed him because he stopped almost immediately to go admire it. He never got back to me to tell me how much he liked my kernel. I finished the evening reading the ipfwadm man page. -- Jim