Re: HOWTO Encourage Women in Linux!

Foss-nepal does need some gender issues initiation. I can see there is
a lack of understanding of gender concerns here among some of the
members. At first I myself was not convinced enough about gender issues
in technology. I thought that gender and technology are totally
irrelevant to each other but attending some of the workshops and
reading articles, I am persuaded enough to say that there are issues of
women in technology that has been totally ignored or lets say at least
I was unaware of.  
And gender issues is not about the war between a male and female
fighting to prove whose the best or a female trying to snatch away the
male's place but about an initiation to make a room for women to fit
into the man's world. And there are ways to do so. And of course this
place will be too small to discuss such a broad subject/issue. Gender
of course has lot of other correlated social issues attached to it.

-srishtee

On 5/31/07, softiso <softiso@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

pls don't forward mails.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bibek Paudel" <eternalyouth@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "FOSS Nepal" < foss-nepal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:36 PM
Subject: [FOSS Nepal] Re: HOWTO Encourage Women in Linux!



+1

lol

On May 30, 11:02 am, "Prasanna Gautam" < prasannagau...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> +1
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> On 5/30/07, рдкре рд░рдмре?рдг ( рд"рдкрди рд рд┐рдYре< )
< prabingau...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > +1
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> > On 5/29/07, Rajesh Pandey <pandey.pan...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > +1
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> > > On 5/29/07, Bibek Paudel <eternalyo...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 29, 3:10 pm, "Srishtee Gurung" < srish...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > Yes, there are very less female participants in FOSS nepal. And we
> > have
> > > > to
> > > > > make the environment very much appropriate for female
participants.
> > And
> > > > I
> > > > > can see that loads of male fossians(Nepali) attitudes that needs
to
> > be
> > > > > changed.  There are lot of great guys working very hard to
establish
> > > > FOSS
>
> > > > well, no offence intended, but what exactly does "loads of male
> > > > fossian attitudes that needs to be changed" mean?
>
> > > > i think, we are already on the wrong track. Its not only in FOSS and
> > > > computer science, take any engineering subject, female participation
> > > > has been always low. And blaming *solely* the male attitudes for
this
> > > > is the least likely method of improving it.
>
> > > > No pun intended, but for guys, its always pain to be spending life
in
> > > > a chick-less field. Given increased female participation and
> > > > enthusiasm, males would only be happy to welcome them gracefully.
> > > > After all, we still have the much cliched examples of the first ever
> > > > programmer (Lady Augusta Lovelace) and the developer of first ever
> > > > compiler for a computer programming language (Grace Murray Hopper)
> > > > being females, disproving any argument that female participation was
> > > > discouraged from the beginning. But in recent years, Computer
Science
> > > > has the least number of females as compared to any other fields of
> > > > engineering.
>
> > > > > movement in Nepal. And because of few "spoiled attitude" we do not
> > want
> > > > > females to be discouraged.
>
> > > > True. Noone wants. But again, what on earth are we to guess by "few
> > > > spoiled attitude" ? It would help if we started talking in clear,
> > > > binary terms.
>
> > > > > Thank you for sending the article, hope it will be an eye opener
for
> > > > most of
> > > > > the males and as well for females.
>
> > > > Lack of spirited and proportionate female participation will only
> > > > deprive Computer Science of that "other" perspective, that "other"
> > > > side of seeing and developing things, that female perspective. It
> > > > would only be beneficial to all concerned, if this happens sooner,
and
> > > > better if we ourselves could be part of that change. But lets stop
the
> > > > blame game. Lets stop acting like bully males and bargaining
females.
> > > > At least professionally.
>
> > > > Yes, why not we start talking about it? There are some talks already
> > > > in world's most reputed educational and professional institutes
about
> > > > female participation in our field. And there are some efforts and
> > > > special programs launched to encourage women in Computer Science.
Lets
> > > > start something similar for our country as well.
>
> > --
> > Prabin Gautam "рд"рдкрди рд рд┐рдYре<"
> > Registered Linux User #443940
> > letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible..........- Hide quoted text -
>
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