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Re: HOWTO Encourage Women in Linux!: msg#00584

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Subject: Re: HOWTO Encourage Women in Linux!


What kind of environment are you searching for women ?

On May 31, 4:08 am, "muna thapa"
<muna21cent...-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello fossians,
>
> Yes there are very less women participation i
> requesting to u all PLZ give us (women) needful enviroment .
>
> Regards,
> Muna Thapa.
>
>
>
> >From: "softiso" <soft...-HcIlrRe5tzqvGau0wA8MMA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: foss-nepal-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: <foss-nepal-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [FOSS Nepal] Re: HOWTO Encourage Women in Linux!
> >Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 08:54:20 +0530
>
> >pls don't forward mails.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Bibek Paudel" <eternalyo...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: "FOSS Nepal" <foss-nepal-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:36 PM
> >Subject: [FOSS Nepal] Re: HOWTO Encourage Women in Linux!
>
> >+1
>
> >lol
>
> >On May 30, 11:02 am, "Prasanna Gautam"
> ><prasannagau...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >wrote:
> > > +1
>
> > > On 5/30/07, पॠरबà¥?ण ( à¤"पन ठिà¤Yà¥< )
> ><prabingau...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > > > +1
>
> > > > On 5/29/07, Rajesh Pandey
> > > > <pandey.pan...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > +1
>
> > > > > On 5/29/07, Bibek Paudel
> > > > > <eternalyo...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 29, 3:10 pm, "Srishtee Gurung"
> > > > > > <srish...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > Yes, there are very less female participants in FOSS nepal. And
> >we
> > > > have
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > make the environment very much appropriate for female
> >participants.
> > > > And
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > can see that loads of male fossians(Nepali) attitudes that needs
> >to
> > > > be
> > > > > > > changed. There are lot of great guys working very hard to
> >establish
> > > > > > FOSS
>
> > > > > > well, no offence intended, but what exactly does "loads of male
> > > > > > fossian attitudes that needs to be changed" mean?
>
> > > > > > i think, we are already on the wrong track. Its not only in FOSS
> >and
> > > > > > computer science, take any engineering subject, female
> >participation
> > > > > > has been always low. And blaming *solely* the male attitudes for
> >this
> > > > > > is the least likely method of improving it.
>
> > > > > > No pun intended, but for guys, its always pain to be spending life
> >in
> > > > > > a chick-less field. Given increased female participation and
> > > > > > enthusiasm, males would only be happy to welcome them gracefully.
> > > > > > After all, we still have the much cliched examples of the first
> >ever
> > > > > > programmer (Lady Augusta Lovelace) and the developer of first ever
> > > > > > compiler for a computer programming language (Grace Murray Hopper)
> > > > > > being females, disproving any argument that female participation
> >was
> > > > > > discouraged from the beginning. But in recent years, Computer
> >Science
> > > > > > has the least number of females as compared to any other fields of
> > > > > > engineering.
>
> > > > > > > movement in Nepal. And because of few "spoiled attitude" we do
> >not
> > > > want
> > > > > > > females to be discouraged.
>
> > > > > > True. Noone wants. But again, what on earth are we to guess by
> >"few
> > > > > > spoiled attitude" ? It would help if we started talking in clear,
> > > > > > binary terms.
>
> > > > > > > Thank you for sending the article, hope it will be an eye opener
> >for
> > > > > > most of
> > > > > > > the males and as well for females.
>
> > > > > > Lack of spirited and proportionate female participation will only
> > > > > > deprive Computer Science of that "other" perspective, that "other"
> > > > > > side of seeing and developing things, that female perspective. It
> > > > > > would only be beneficial to all concerned, if this happens sooner,
> >and
> > > > > > better if we ourselves could be part of that change. But lets stop
> >the
> > > > > > blame game. Lets stop acting like bully males and bargaining
> >females.
> > > > > > At least professionally.
>
> > > > > > Yes, why not we start talking about it? There are some talks
> >already
> > > > > > in world's most reputed educational and professional institutes
> >about
> > > > > > female participation in our field. And there are some efforts and
> > > > > > special programs launched to encourage women in Computer Science.
> >Lets
> > > > > > start something similar for our country as well.
>
> > > > --
> > > > Prabin Gautam "à¤"पन ठिà¤Yà¥<"
> > > > Registered Linux User #443940
> > > > letS makE ouR streeT FOSSible..........- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
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