Well, what about Erlang? It was developed for the express purpose of
establishing a distributed computing model for which Lisp and Prolog had
first been considered but found inadequate (for various reasons, see
http://www.erlang.org), and it has the additional benefit of compiling to VM
code. And it's probably the best thing to use for 100% fault tolerance.
(Disclaimer: I *love* Python. It's my language of choice for the
bioinformatics courses I hold, and for virtually anything I do. But somehow I
feel that a radically new approach should be based upon a radically different
language design...)
No matter which language you use, keep that level and in ten years the C
operating system, whether we call it Windoze or ***ix, will be forgotten!
RMF
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> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 20:17:23 -0500
> From: Arich Chanachai <macrocosm@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages
> To: Phil Frost <indigo@xxxxxxxxxxx>, uuu-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Phil Frost wrote:
> >On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 01:28:29PM -0800, Richard Taytor wrote:
> >>First, thank you for Unununium. I first learned of the project years
> >>ago and I'm happy to see it is alive and well.
> >>
> >>I'm curious: For the same reasons cited for using Python, why not use
> >>Lisp? I understand that Python is more popular/pervasive, but if
> >>reducing the cognitive load on the programmers, increasing the
> >>elegance and efficiency between programmer and code, &c., is of
> >>primary concern, Lisp (or as mentioned in the documentation, creating
> >>a new language) seems a better choice (as it appears to me). What do
> >>you think?
> >
> >There are many other languages that are more elegant than Python.
> >However, python was chosen because being more popular/pervasive has
> >value as well. By using python, unununium will have access to more
> >software and more developers who know how to write software for it.
> >Python struck the right balance between popularity and good design. It's
> >likely that any number of other languages could have filled this need,
> >but for now we do not have time to spin on languages. If plans to
> >implement the CLR are implemented, it will be possible to use many more
> >languages.
> >
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> This implementation of the CLR would merely be an integration of Mono
> into the uuu architecture, no?
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> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:28:23 -0500
> From: Arich Chanachai <macrocosm@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Uuu-devel] languages
> To: Phil Frost <indigo@xxxxxxxxxxx>, uuu-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Phil Frost wrote:
> >On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 01:28:29PM -0800, Richard Taytor wrote:
> >>First, thank you for Unununium. I first learned of the project years
> >>ago and I'm happy to see it is alive and well.
> >>
> >>I'm curious: For the same reasons cited for using Python, why not use
> >>Lisp? I understand that Python is more popular/pervasive, but if
> >>reducing the cognitive load on the programmers, increasing the
> >>elegance and efficiency between programmer and code, &c., is of
> >>primary concern, Lisp (or as mentioned in the documentation, creating
> >>a new language) seems a better choice (as it appears to me). What do
> >>you think?
> >
> >There are many other languages that are more elegant than Python.
> >However, python was chosen because being more popular/pervasive has
> >value as well. By using python, unununium will have access to more
> >software and more developers who know how to write software for it.
> >Python struck the right balance between popularity and good design. It's
> >likely that any number of other languages could have filled this need,
> >but for now we do not have time to spin on languages. If plans to
> >implement the CLR are implemented, it will be possible to use many more
> >languages.
> >
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> Arich Chanachai <macrocosm@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> > Mike Meyer wrote:
> >>Whatever the intentions may be, the *act* is one of dictation. Since
> >>the point of the underlying OS is to increase the interconnections
> >>between applications (assuming I've found the correct web page and
> >>interpreted it correctly), the underlying architecture should be
> >>language-neutral. That allows as many applications as possible to play
> >>in the environment.
> >
> > Arich Replied:
> >> When the CLR is integrated, it will allow a wide array of problem
> >> solving choices for uuu users.
>
> Mike Meyer countered:
> You've missed the point. Allowing a wide array of problem solving
> choices is a goal, not a means. Instead of concentrating on adding
> langauges, you should be provding an infrastructure that makes adding
> langauges simple. The Plan 9 example does this best, as any language
> that can do file I/O is supported.
>
> It may be that CLR is just such an infrastructure (I'm not familiar
> with it). In that case, instead of pushing Python, you should be
> pushing CLR with IronPython as an option.
>
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