On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 11:21:29AM +0100, chris@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> I'd like to start some discussion on this list about if and how some kind of
> (beta) testing of "Kubuntu" / "Ubuntu/KDE" / ... might happen.
As you may have guessed by the lack of reply we're all quite busy on
other things.
At some point amu will make a kubuntu metapackage with
a list of packages we want and from that make a live CD, but he says
he's busy for the next few weeks.
> Actually I'd merely like to ask what your plans are. Will there be an
> installer cd of Kubuntu before release, or should all testing (if any on the
> side of users is desired) happen with an Ubuntu + KDE installation?
Plan is for there to be installer CDs yes.
> That's what I'm currently using. An Ubuntu (I think Hoary Array 2)
> installation stripped of most GNOME packages with KDE stuff added.
> But of course it's me who decided which packages of KDE and which
> KDE-specific
> software were added (like amarok, kaffeine, akregator and so on) were added.
> Thus it's not really Kubuntu - it's "my Ubuntu with KDE".
kubuntu == ubuntu - ubuntu-desktop metapackage + kubuntu desktop
metapackage, which is basicly what you're describing.
> There are some minor issues, like;
> - the directory icons in K-Menu not showing (for directories like
> "Accessories", "Games" and so on)
K-Menu is quite broken at the moment, some of it can be fixed by
installing the gnome-menus package but I need to read up on the (awfae
complex) xdg menu specification to work out a proper solution.
> - aKregator kontact Plugin starts extremely slow, and aKregator handles a lot
> worse than in e.g. SuSE
Curious, will have to investigate that.
> And some others along those lines.
Please report them here.
> The most interesting thing about a Kubuntu test installation for me would be
> to see what can alreday be achieved (via GUI) out of the box. For example to
> set up ISDN or IR-connections I'd install several additional packages and do
> some trial and error right now. I don't use those technologies (only
> examples) myself but i guess they are expected to "just work" by some users,
> so I'd be here to test these if none of you devs gets around to this kind of
> work.
Hopefully we can use/make frontends to gnome-system tools at some
point for this.
> I'd really like to test a vanilla kubuntu installation and look for such
> minor
> quirks or give some feedback on what packages might be "missing" from my pov.
Keep your eye out for a kubuntu metapackage at some point.
Jonathan Riddell
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