Re: Responding to Oliver ref: DHCP Clarification

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: LTSP without Edubuntu (Robert)
   2. Re: LTSP without Edubuntu (Oliver Grawert)
   3. Re: LTSP without Edubuntu (Oliver Grawert)
   4. "Tiny sub-$100 PC runs Puppy Linux" (Bob McCaa)


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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:10:44 -0400
From: Robert <rganyard@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Today's Topics:

   1. Xen source (Trevor Grove)
   2. Re: Xen source (Oliver Grawert)
   3. LTSP without Edubuntu (Steve Smith)
   4. Re: LTSP without Edubuntu (Jani Monoses)
   5. Re: LTSP without Edubuntu (Oliver Grawert)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:20:38 +0100
From: "Trevor Grove" <trevorgrove@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Xen source
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I have a Ubuntu desktop system and am trying to run a Xensource live demo
CD. I burnt the iso image on an  XP machine using cdburnerxp. It would seem
that grub can't see the CD :

grub> configfile /dev/rdc

Error 12: invalid device requested.

But in a terminal window ls -la /dev/fdc gives the iso file name and
permissions


any ideas please?

Thanks,

Trevor.
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:31:37 +0200
From: Oliver Grawert <ogra@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Xen source
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hi,
On Mi, 2006-08-23 at 17:20 +0100, Trevor Grove wrote:
  
    

I have a Ubuntu desktop system and am trying to run a Xensource live
demo CD.
    
      

thats not the appropriate list for such a question, this list is about
edubuntu development/testing, try the ubuntu-users mailing list for
ubuntu support :)

ciao
	oli




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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 01:55:15 +0100
From: "Steve Smith" <steve.lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: LTSP without Edubuntu
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Hi

I'm going to be setting up LTSP on Dapper but I don't want the
Edubuntu desktop, etc.  Should I follow the instructions here
(https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThinClientHowto), which haven't
been updated since Breezy, or is there an easier way?

I guesed this would be the most reliable place to ask :)

Thank you!
Steve



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:44:25 +0300
From: Jani Monoses <jani.monoses@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: LTSP without Edubuntu
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Steve Smith wrote:
  
    

Hi

I'm going to be setting up LTSP on Dapper but I don't want the
Edubuntu desktop, etc.  Should I follow the instructions here
(https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThinClientHowto), which haven't
been updated since Breezy, or is there an easier way?

I guesed this would be the most reliable place to ask :)
    
      

The Xubuntu alternate CD contains a LTSP boot option that may be closer
to what you want, but it's an Xfce not a Gnome desktop that you end up with.

Jani




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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:32:42 +0200
From: Oliver Grawert <ogra@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: LTSP without Edubuntu
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hi,
On Do, 2006-08-24 at 01:55 +0100, Steve Smith wrote:
  
    

Hi

I'm going to be setting up LTSP on Dapper but I don't want the
Edubuntu desktop, etc.  Should I follow the instructions here
(https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThinClientHowto), which haven't
been updated since Breezy, or is there an easier way?
    
      

it once was written as easy as the page pointed below, but many
community additions made it very complicated for the common user to
read. but since i think there is valuable info on it, i rather created
the page below than deleting stuff from the older thin client howto
page ... it should probably be linked from there.

  
    

I guesed this would be the most reliable place to ask :)

    
      

right, it is :)
see:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall

ciao
	oli




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I too, would like to run LTSP on Dapper without the Edubuntu Desktop. I 
like the quick install guide. I am confused about DHCP. My DSL 
modem/router handles dhcp upstream on the network before getting to the 
Dapper box. I have two ethernet ports, eth1 for upstream and eth0 
available for LTSP on the Dapper box. Does LTSP handle dhcp only for 
eth0? Does this cause no conflict with the router dhcp upstream 
connected to eth1? I prefer not to mess with the router config since it 
it provided by my ISP. I am a recent convert so here's hoping my 
questions are clear. Thanks much for the learning experience.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:48:49 +0200
From: Oliver Grawert <ogra@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: LTSP without Edubuntu
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hi
On Do, 2006-08-24 at 08:10 -0400, Robert wrote:
  

I too, would like to run LTSP on Dapper without the Edubuntu Desktop.
I like the quick install guide. I am confused about DHCP. My DSL
modem/router handles dhcp upstream on the network before getting to
the Dapper box. I have two ethernet ports, eth1 for upstream and eth0
available for LTSP on the Dapper box. Does LTSP handle dhcp only for
eth0? Does this cause no conflict with the router dhcp upstream
connected to eth1? I prefer not to mess with the router config since
it it provided by my ISP. I am  a recent convert  so here's hoping my
questions are clear. Thanks much for the learning experience. 
    

if you configure eth0 to have the static IP 192.168.0.1, the ubuntu
dhcpd will only register to that interface and leave the eth1 interface
alone, its intelligent enough to only serve on static interfaces with a
matching IP (indeed eth1 shouldnt should have a 192.168.0.xxx address as
well, that wouldnt work, so make sure your router doesnt provide IPs
from that range or change /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf *and* the IP of eth0 to
match another network address)

ciao
	oli


  

Hi Oliver,
    Your explanation of DHCP configuration was exactly what I needed. I signed on to a terminal today for the first time. This LTSP is exciting to say the least.

Thanks,
Bob

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:48:49 +0200
From: Oliver Grawert <ogra@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: LTSP without Edubuntu
To: edubuntu-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <1156423729.13472.4.camel@edubuntu>
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hi
On Do, 2006-08-24 at 08:10 -0400, Robert wrote:
  

I too, would like to run LTSP on Dapper without the Edubuntu Desktop.
I like the quick install guide. I am confused about DHCP. My DSL
modem/router handles dhcp upstream on the network before getting to
the Dapper box. I have two ethernet ports, eth1 for upstream and eth0
available for LTSP on the Dapper box. Does LTSP handle dhcp only for
eth0? Does this cause no conflict with the router dhcp upstream
connected to eth1? I prefer not to mess with the router config since
it it provided by my ISP. I am  a recent convert  so here's hoping my
questions are clear. Thanks much for the learning experience. 
    

if you configure eth0 to have the static IP 192.168.0.1, the ubuntu
dhcpd will only register to that interface and leave the eth1 interface
alone, its intelligent enough to only serve on static interfaces with a
matching IP (indeed eth1 shouldnt should have a 192.168.0.xxx address as
well, that wouldnt work, so make sure your router doesnt provide IPs
from that range or change /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf *and* the IP of eth0 to
match another network address)

ciao
	oli





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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:20:40 -0400
From: Bob McCaa <rmccaa@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: "Tiny sub-$100 PC runs Puppy Linux"
To: edubuntu-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, k12osn@xxxxxxxxxx
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Saw this on DIGG

http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS6828123924.html

"A Bangkok-based company is shipping a tiny, sub-$100 PC capable of
running Puppy and other lightweight Linux distributions. NorhTec's
MicroClient Jr. measures 4.5 inches square, draws 8 Watts, and has a
166MHz Pentium-compatible processor with three integer units. It targets
thin-client, kiosk, and electronic signage applications."

Might be nice for K12LTSP labs on a budget.




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