Re: Re: Re: Australian tv grabber

Why not ask for his contacts and see if you can take over as
consolidator?

Robert

--- Elliot Shepherd <elliot-xmltv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I just got in contact with the man who runs the TV I was grabbing
> from, to 
> see if he could output in XML. Sadly however he told me that the site
> is 
> closing down within weeks!
> 
> Oh well. At least i learnt a bit =)
> 
> Elliot
> "rohbags" <rohbags@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
> news:1101611405.14347.10.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Hi Elliot,
> >
> > if, *IF*, the data you obtain is legal, I'd be happy to slap
> together a
> > grabber for your site (I currently maintain the tv_grab_au, which I
> > never get around to making it 100% so it hasn made it into an
> offical
> > release yet).
> >
> > Ive been in close contact with the major tv guide suppliers, and
> > currently its the TV stations here who impose the restrictions, and
> > until they (the stations) budge a little, no one in Australia can
> have a
> > legal source of data.
> >
> > Only one company here has been able to secure an agreement to
> > redistribute their data, and thats d1.com.au, I have no idea how
> they
> > did it, but they did and good on 'em for doing so, they have been
> kind
> > enough to allow Aussie xmltv users to obtain their data directly
> from
> > their database server, not just their customers who brought their
> Home
> > Media Center product.
> >
> > Until we have something better (which i dont see happening for a
> long
> > time), i think Aussie xmltv users should stick with D1;s legal
> source.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rohan M.
> > (rohbags@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
> >
> > PS: Seriously dude - be careful with your site if your just
> scraping the
> > data from other sites. I can assure you that the legal teams for
> most
> > major tv guide sites are very active at the moment and will not
> hesitate
> > to drag you through the courts just to prove their point. Just ask
> the
> > OzTivo guys or ask me to see the legal letters from companies like
> > yahoo.com.au or ebroadcast.com.au.
> > Be careful dude.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 2004-11-27 at 15:51, Elliot Shepherd wrote:
> >> Distribution rights? Short answer : no.
> >>
> >> If it the site i am grabbing from says it is a "Community Service"
> and no
> >> copyright message is given anywhere on the site.
> >>
> >> >From your point of view though, you would only be providing a
> script 
> >> >that
> >> downloads from my server. There can't be any legal problems with
> that can
> >> there?
> >>
> >> Elliot
> >>
> >> "Robert Eden" <rmeden@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:20041127053337.23080.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > This is the right place.
> >> >
> >> > I don't know if this is a issue Down Under or not, but do you
> have the
> >> > legal right to redistribute the data?
> >> >
> >> > Most of the commerical web sites allow access for personal use
> with the
> >> > restriction of not redistributing it.  That's a major reason why
> the
> >> > XMLTV project distributes grabbers, not data.
> >> >
> >> > If you do have distribution rights, someone with an interest
> (i.e.
> >> > "itch to scratch") could write  a grabber and I don't see a
> problem
> >> > with including it in the XMLTV distribution.
> >> >
> >> > Robert
> >> >
> >> > --- Elliot Shepherd <elliot-xmltv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi all.  =)
> >> >>
> >> >> Apologies in advance for this post if it is in the wrong area.
> >> >>
> >> >> I am developing a site which grabs tv listings for about 40
> regions
> >> >> in
> >> >> australia and spits it out xmltv format. It already works in
> fact, i
> >> >> am just
> >> >> trying to make it a bit more bulletproof.
> >> >>
> >> >> I just wanted to know once it's online for everyone, if a
> simple
> >> >> plugin for
> >> >> xmltv can be made to just grab the data  from my server.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> Elliot
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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