Re: Re: Australian tv grabber

I just got in contact with the man who runs the TV I was grabbing from, to 
see if he could output in XML. Sadly however he told me that the site is 
closing down within weeks!

Oh well. At least i learnt a bit =)

Elliot
"rohbags" <rohbags@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
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> Hi Elliot,
>
> if, *IF*, the data you obtain is legal, I'd be happy to slap together a
> grabber for your site (I currently maintain the tv_grab_au, which I
> never get around to making it 100% so it hasn made it into an offical
> release yet).
>
> Ive been in close contact with the major tv guide suppliers, and
> currently its the TV stations here who impose the restrictions, and
> until they (the stations) budge a little, no one in Australia can have a
> legal source of data.
>
> Only one company here has been able to secure an agreement to
> redistribute their data, and thats d1.com.au, I have no idea how they
> did it, but they did and good on 'em for doing so, they have been kind
> enough to allow Aussie xmltv users to obtain their data directly from
> their database server, not just their customers who brought their Home
> Media Center product.
>
> Until we have something better (which i dont see happening for a long
> time), i think Aussie xmltv users should stick with D1;s legal source.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rohan M.
> (rohbags@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
>
> PS: Seriously dude - be careful with your site if your just scraping the
> data from other sites. I can assure you that the legal teams for most
> major tv guide sites are very active at the moment and will not hesitate
> to drag you through the courts just to prove their point. Just ask the
> OzTivo guys or ask me to see the legal letters from companies like
> yahoo.com.au or ebroadcast.com.au.
> Be careful dude.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 2004-11-27 at 15:51, Elliot Shepherd wrote:
>> Distribution rights? Short answer : no.
>>
>> If it the site i am grabbing from says it is a "Community Service" and no
>> copyright message is given anywhere on the site.
>>
>> >From your point of view though, you would only be providing a script 
>> >that
>> downloads from my server. There can't be any legal problems with that can
>> there?
>>
>> Elliot
>>
>> "Robert Eden" <rmeden@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:20041127053337.23080.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > This is the right place.
>> >
>> > I don't know if this is a issue Down Under or not, but do you have the
>> > legal right to redistribute the data?
>> >
>> > Most of the commerical web sites allow access for personal use with the
>> > restriction of not redistributing it.  That's a major reason why the
>> > XMLTV project distributes grabbers, not data.
>> >
>> > If you do have distribution rights, someone with an interest (i.e.
>> > "itch to scratch") could write  a grabber and I don't see a problem
>> > with including it in the XMLTV distribution.
>> >
>> > Robert
>> >
>> > --- Elliot Shepherd <elliot-xmltv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi all.  =)
>> >>
>> >> Apologies in advance for this post if it is in the wrong area.
>> >>
>> >> I am developing a site which grabs tv listings for about 40 regions
>> >> in
>> >> australia and spits it out xmltv format. It already works in fact, i
>> >> am just
>> >> trying to make it a bit more bulletproof.
>> >>
>> >> I just wanted to know once it's online for everyone, if a simple
>> >> plugin for
>> >> xmltv can be made to just grab the data  from my server.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Elliot
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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