Re: Re: Australian tv grabber

Hi Elliot,

if, *IF*, the data you obtain is legal, I'd be happy to slap together a
grabber for your site (I currently maintain the tv_grab_au, which I
never get around to making it 100% so it hasn made it into an offical
release yet).

Ive been in close contact with the major tv guide suppliers, and
currently its the TV stations here who impose the restrictions, and
until they (the stations) budge a little, no one in Australia can have a
legal source of data.

Only one company here has been able to secure an agreement to
redistribute their data, and thats d1.com.au, I have no idea how they
did it, but they did and good on 'em for doing so, they have been kind
enough to allow Aussie xmltv users to obtain their data directly from
their database server, not just their customers who brought their Home
Media Center product.

Until we have something better (which i dont see happening for a long
time), i think Aussie xmltv users should stick with D1;s legal source.

Regards,

Rohan M.
(rohbags@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)

PS: Seriously dude - be careful with your site if your just scraping the
data from other sites. I can assure you that the legal teams for most
major tv guide sites are very active at the moment and will not hesitate
to drag you through the courts just to prove their point. Just ask the
OzTivo guys or ask me to see the legal letters from companies like
yahoo.com.au or ebroadcast.com.au.
Be careful dude.




On Sat, 2004-11-27 at 15:51, Elliot Shepherd wrote:
> Distribution rights? Short answer : no.
> 
> If it the site i am grabbing from says it is a "Community Service" and no 
> copyright message is given anywhere on the site.
> 
> >From your point of view though, you would only be providing a script that 
> downloads from my server. There can't be any legal problems with that can 
> there?
> 
> Elliot
> 
> "Robert Eden" <rmeden@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
> news:20041127053337.23080.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > This is the right place.
> >
> > I don't know if this is a issue Down Under or not, but do you have the
> > legal right to redistribute the data?
> >
> > Most of the commerical web sites allow access for personal use with the
> > restriction of not redistributing it.  That's a major reason why the
> > XMLTV project distributes grabbers, not data.
> >
> > If you do have distribution rights, someone with an interest (i.e.
> > "itch to scratch") could write  a grabber and I don't see a problem
> > with including it in the XMLTV distribution.
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > --- Elliot Shepherd <elliot-xmltv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all.  =)
> >>
> >> Apologies in advance for this post if it is in the wrong area.
> >>
> >> I am developing a site which grabs tv listings for about 40 regions
> >> in
> >> australia and spits it out xmltv format. It already works in fact, i
> >> am just
> >> trying to make it a bit more bulletproof.
> >>
> >> I just wanted to know once it's online for everyone, if a simple
> >> plugin for
> >> xmltv can be made to just grab the data  from my server.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Elliot
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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