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Re: Perl script to syncronize grabber and tv_check

On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 05:16:07PM -0800, Robert Eden wrote: > > ReplayTV units get about 1 hour / GB. Wow. That is good, for what I am assuming in quality. Is that from digital or analog cable? Any idea what the resolution of 1G/h is? I am doing about 1.1G/h but the resolution is only 320x240. When I get disk space and CPU to do it I want to go back to 640x480. I was using 2.5G/h at that resolution. > Six months ago, I replaced my > 30GB disk with a 100GB for $120. Do-it-yerself replacement? $120 for a 100BB disk huh? That is pretty good. > About 30 hours are recurring kid shows and movies. We just keep an > episode or 2 of each show our kids may want to watch (2,5 YOA). We > also have about 8 kid movies (and the potty video for the 2YO!) they > ask for occasionally. Most of it is automatically overwritten without > being watch. That is something I don't do yet. I like the idea of "keep x most recent episodes" where you overwrite the oldest episode if x episodes are present. But we record mostly "episode stuff" so I am not really interested in "overwriting". When the boy gets a little older (11mo currently) I will be interested in "the 3 most recent Sesame Streets". > Joseph and the Amazing Technical Dreamcoat is in "high" > quality, so it takes 5GB for the 1.5 hour show. Wow! Now that must be full res! Is ReplayTV doing MPEG2? > My wife and I record about 8 hours/week of joint shows. We're pretty > close to current.. Yeah, last week was slow so we went from full (and _having_ to watch some television) to nearly empty now. We power-watched almost all of last season's "Friends" in the last week or two. :-) > I record a bunch of science and engineering shows. Some I watch, some > I delete, some get overwritten without watching. That is cool. I have a scoring system that I use when inputing the "shows to record" so that if two shows are on at the same time, it chooses the one with the highest score (until I have enough TV cards to eliminate this case :-), but I want to extend that scoring system into overwriting lower scored programs with higher scored programs when the disk is full. Optionally, the score of a program might decrease as it gets older and older. > When my father was sick (Cancer) and I was going to see him a lot, we > almost filled the 100 hours with shows we actually cared about. > Watched in this past off-season. Finished just as the new one cranked > up. 'Tis great isn't it? :-) > I don't miss VCR tapes at all! Miss 'em? I can't stand 'em! :-) > Every week, I dump 5 hours of videotape > to the Replay and we watch it there. It doesn't label the shows, but > we can instantly jump around. We give it a higher viewing priority due > to the lack of labeling. Do you notice the quality degradation of VHS (loss of quality) to compressed video (more loss of quality)? > With all that we have 30 hours of "Guaranteed" time available. I know > the disk is full, because I do see non-guaranteed stuff disappear from > time to time. Interesting. > PVRs are sweet... I can't imagine going back to tapes or live-TV. Me neither. We hardly ever watch either anymore. It was also sweet when I "broke" my girlfriend of the tie to "when is XXXX on". Now she is happy to just sit down and see what's on the PVR when she wants to watch TV. The ease of commercial skip also means we never watch something when it comes on. We wait at least 15 minutes into it so that we can save time an avoid commercials. b. -- Brian J. Murrell pgp0idrrjSadN.pgp Description: PGP signature

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Re: Perl script to syncronize grabber and tv_check

--- Ed Avis <ed@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I interpreted the question differently, I thought Robert Eden was > asking about what to output to feed directly into the VCR > programmer. In which case you surely don't want (2). I wanted to know what would output from TV_CHECK, not necessarily what would be input to the programmer. I'm not sure TV_CHECK is a good data source for a recording scheduler. Such a scheduler could make much better decisions will access to the full guide (other times, different feeds, already downloaded, etc.) Some of TV_CHECK's algorithms could be used for such a task of course. Robert __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2

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Re: Perl script to syncronize grabber and tv_check

On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 05:16:07PM -0800, Robert Eden wrote: > > ReplayTV units get about 1 hour / GB. Wow. That is good, for what I am assuming in quality. Is that from digital or analog cable? Any idea what the resolution of 1G/h is? I am doing about 1.1G/h but the resolution is only 320x240. When I get disk space and CPU to do it I want to go back to 640x480. I was using 2.5G/h at that resolution. > Six months ago, I replaced my > 30GB disk with a 100GB for $120. Do-it-yerself replacement? $120 for a 100BB disk huh? That is pretty good. > About 30 hours are recurring kid shows and movies. We just keep an > episode or 2 of each show our kids may want to watch (2,5 YOA). We > also have about 8 kid movies (and the potty video for the 2YO!) they > ask for occasionally. Most of it is automatically overwritten without > being watch. That is something I don't do yet. I like the idea of "keep x most recent episodes" where you overwrite the oldest episode if x episodes are present. But we record mostly "episode stuff" so I am not really interested in "overwriting". When the boy gets a little older (11mo currently) I will be interested in "the 3 most recent Sesame Streets". > Joseph and the Amazing Technical Dreamcoat is in "high" > quality, so it takes 5GB for the 1.5 hour show. Wow! Now that must be full res! Is ReplayTV doing MPEG2? > My wife and I record about 8 hours/week of joint shows. We're pretty > close to current.. Yeah, last week was slow so we went from full (and _having_ to watch some television) to nearly empty now. We power-watched almost all of last season's "Friends" in the last week or two. :-) > I record a bunch of science and engineering shows. Some I watch, some > I delete, some get overwritten without watching. That is cool. I have a scoring system that I use when inputing the "shows to record" so that if two shows are on at the same time, it chooses the one with the highest score (until I have enough TV cards to eliminate this case :-), but I want to extend that scoring system into overwriting lower scored programs with higher scored programs when the disk is full. Optionally, the score of a program might decrease as it gets older and older. > When my father was sick (Cancer) and I was going to see him a lot, we > almost filled the 100 hours with shows we actually cared about. > Watched in this past off-season. Finished just as the new one cranked > up. 'Tis great isn't it? :-) > I don't miss VCR tapes at all! Miss 'em? I can't stand 'em! :-) > Every week, I dump 5 hours of videotape > to the Replay and we watch it there. It doesn't label the shows, but > we can instantly jump around. We give it a higher viewing priority due > to the lack of labeling. Do you notice the quality degradation of VHS (loss of quality) to compressed video (more loss of quality)? > With all that we have 30 hours of "Guaranteed" time available. I know > the disk is full, because I do see non-guaranteed stuff disappear from > time to time. Interesting. > PVRs are sweet... I can't imagine going back to tapes or live-TV. Me neither. We hardly ever watch either anymore. It was also sweet when I "broke" my girlfriend of the tie to "when is XXXX on". Now she is happy to just sit down and see what's on the PVR when she wants to watch TV. The ease of commercial skip also means we never watch something when it comes on. We wait at least 15 minutes into it so that we can save time an avoid commercials. b. -- Brian J. Murrell pgp0idrrjSadN.pgp Description: PGP signature

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ReplayTV addon you need.

Have you looked at DVArchive? It creates a virtual replay4k out of a standard PC. It can't record, but it acts as a big repository. It can also stream the shows back to the replay. It also lets you edit the show information. It also will move shows off of your replay on a scheduled basis. As a multiple PVR family (3 TiVos, 2 Dishplayers), I prefer time shifting to live tv. Now, if I could network all of these, I would be in great shape... It is just one more project on my todo list. Dennis On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 05:16:07PM -0800, Robert Eden wrote: > ReplayTV units get about 1 hour / GB. Six months ago, I replaced my > 30GB disk with a 100GB for $120. > > About 30 hours are recurring kid shows and movies. We just keep an > episode or 2 of each show our kids may want to watch (2,5 YOA). We > also have about 8 kid movies (and the potty video for the 2YO!) they > ask for occasionally. Most of it is automatically overwritten without > being watch. Joseph and the Amazing Technical Dreamcoat is in "high" > quality, so it takes 5GB for the 1.5 hour show. > > My wife and I record about 8 hours/week of joint shows. We're pretty > close to current.. > > My wife's has about another 20 hours of shows/week (including soaps). > She's quite a bit behind. > > I record a bunch of science and engineering shows. Some I watch, some > I delete, some get overwritten without watching. > > When my father was sick (Cancer) and I was going to see him a lot, we > almost filled the 100 hours with shows we actually cared about. > Watched in this past off-season. Finished just as the new one cranked > up. > > I don't miss VCR tapes at all! Every week, I dump 5 hours of videotape > to the Replay and we watch it there. It doesn't label the shows, but > we can instantly jump around. We give it a higher viewing priority due > to the lack of labeling. > > With all that we have 30 hours of "Guaranteed" time available. I know > the disk is full, because I do see non-guaranteed stuff disappear from > time to time. > > PVRs are sweet... I can't imagine going back to tapes or live-TV. > > Robert