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Re: eXchangeable Faceted Metadata Language: msg#00079

Subject: Re: eXchangeable Faceted Metadata Language
Lars Marius Garshol wrote:
* Conal Tuohy
| | I've only taken a brief look at it, and it's far too late at night
| to be reading this kind of thing. It certainly owes a lot to topic
| maps but it's clearly NOT a subset of XTM syntactically.

You may find this useful:

  <URL: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.text.xml.xfml/41 >

I thought there was more debate about this, but couldn't find it.
Anyway, what I wrote about faceted classification, which Murray
objected to, is definitely valid for XFML. (My conclusion was that
XFML doesn't represent faceted classification as Murray understands
the term, and possibly not as it is generally understood either.)

Well, I've been doing research into this for the last six months
or so, and one thing is for certain: there's no canonical definition
of "faceted classification". In lieu of such a thing, I've tried in
my own work to meld the concepts I thought most valuable from FC
within a Topic Map framework. There are elements of XFML I think are
cool, but then I think FC is pretty cool. My criticism of XFML is
basically that I think it's unnecessary, that you could do XFML in
a completely Topic Map-based framework (i.e., XTM based, if you like,
or ISO 13250 if you want a different syntax). If XFML were to become
ISO 13250 compliant, I'd probably write importers and exporters to it.
As it's (IMO) a weaker syntax than XTM, I can at least writer importers
for it, and probably will as it stabilizes (in usage).

(We've never done anything with that XFML importer, though. It would
be interesting to hear if there's any interest in such a thing, and
whether people think a common PSI set for expressing XFML in topic
maps would be useful. (Some of it could probably recycle Kal's faceted
classification PSIs.))

I think it'd be useful if the XFML authors were to create that set,
rather than somebody outside of their group. Then we'd have a shot
at such interoperability. It would be a shame if such technological
brethren as we both represent didn't get along.

Murray

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Murray Altheim                    http://kmi.open.ac.uk/people/murray/
Knowledge Media Institute
The Open University, Milton Keynes, Bucks, MK7 6AA, UK               .

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