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Re: Mapping files?: msg#00097

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Subject: Re: Mapping files?

Michel Biezunski wrote:
Jon Udell did not "misunderstand" or "misrepresent" topic maps. Jon
Udell *did not use* topic maps. There is a difference - a big one.
Reread the article and you will see that he does not mention any of the
relevant topic map standards. IMHO, he simply wrote the article and used
the term "topic maps" without doing the research to find out that the
term was in use in a completely different context. So I withdraw the
"hijacking" remark which seems to have caused so much anxiety. Or
rather, I qualify it as "unintentionally hijacked".


I am in favor of what you call "unintentionally hijacking topic maps". I think this is exactly what is needed for making topic maps fly
and get widely used.

Although we tried to develop a model which would be simple and
straightforward, the remarks on this list lead me to think that
the Topic Maps model as currently existing and embodied in the XTM/HyTm syntaxes might be *too* rich and *too* complex to correspond to various needs which would be happier with a lighter definition of topic maps. That for me is a strong argument in
favor of a modular perspective on topic maps, which would not
contradict or invalidate anything that currently exists, but
would make the learning curve simpler.

Just a thought.

I've been stuck in the house with a late winter cold for the past three days, I see a chance to blow out the pipes at the gym so I'm in a bit of a rush; the state of my health may have affected the tone of my earlier email. If so, my apologies. In addition, I wanted to wait a bit before responding to Kal and to anyone else who waded in on this. But... quickly.

I don't think TM concept or the specification itself over complex and I'd be leary of trying to simplify or modularize it. What I found difficult at the start was bridging the gap between the abstraction, the patently great idea of a TM and the application to my littel web world. Yes, I could see TM examples and applications, but I was still having trouble fitting it all into my personal hands-on experience. I couldn't figure out, given my limited time and technical prowess, how to show and tell a Topic Map on my own, self-designed, self-maintained website.

I've looked at and admired the Tequila software, but I think about the technical assumptions for use: comfort and working knowledge of the Java programming language; knowledge of Apache component installation, configuration; some webserver knowledge; in addition to TM design and implementation expertise. That's my perception and, if it's right, it's a big chew.

In an ideal future, what would serve someone like me is probably an application that, given some design guidelines for defining META tags in my site pages, using Dublin Core for example, there is an application that will crawl around my site and -- presto! -- there is a "site map on steroids" that happens to be a Topic Map with links in place and the smarts to repeat the process periodically or whenever the content changes. I wonder if this is feasible? I wonder if people would pay money for a tool like this? I wonder whether the economics of the proposition would make it worthwhile to build?

I have to go. I look forward to seeing responses with eyes clear of blear.

Regards. ...edN


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