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Re: integation with BPM/WF engines: msg#00079

Subject: Re: integation with BPM/WF engines
Hello Ronald,

Ronald van Kuijk wrote:

Hola,

I was thinking of using chiba to create xml documents that can be send through an ebXML server. That is going to be fairly simple, since I've adapted the ebxml server to accept documents/messages through a jms queue and adapting chiba to have a JMSSubmissionHandler should not be to difficult.

So I was thinking a little further. Separate xform documents will in many cases (at leas in mine) be part of a larger process. Some will be handled externally, hence the ebXML server and some internally. In all case, there is a kind of flow and tasklists involved. To me this sounds like BPM/WF. I'm looking into jBPM at the moment to see if it can fit my needs or be adapted.
your not alone with this feeling ;)

we discuss this idea for quite some time in different scenarios. it does care how you name it: workflow, process-, bpm-engine... it should be significantly easy to establish a thin layer above Chiba/XForms to build complete applications with complex flow logic.

Did anyone try something like this before?
we haven't actually found time (and money ;) to do this but are highly interested in any efforts in that direction. we have quite a bit of the plan that would be needed in our heads and our distant vision is to build such a platform: you use graphical high-level tools (maybe SVG) to model your flows and datastructures, build some xforms for manipulation of data and implementation of use cases and get complete business apps without a single line of coding and no knowledge of programming. - of course it's still a vision but if you stumble about some adventurous investors ... ;)


Joern

Ronald


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