Re: Not snazzy (was: New Unicode Savvy Logo)

At 11:16 AM 5/28/2003, Edward H Trager wrote:

>On Wed, 28 May 2003, Doug Ewell wrote:
>
> > I don't really think we are trying to say that a Web page is
> > "knowledgeable" about Unicode, but rather that it "uses" or "takes
> > advantage of" Unicode.  How about "Powered by Unicode"?
>
>I don't think "powered" is the right word. "Unicode Compliant" is more to
>the point.  Also, I think it would be easier to get reasonable
>translations for "compliant".

Compliant is a problem term, as compliance is a problem concept. I believe 
we discussed, some months ago, the problem of claiming compliance for 
systems or applications, since very little (any?) software implements 
everything in Unicode or implements everything equally well. What would it 
mean to say that a website is 'Unicode compliant'? Is there any point in 
proclaiming a website 'Unicode compliant' if the visitor is using a browser 
that is *not* Unicode compliant insofar as being able to correctly display 
that site?

Magda wrote: 'Very often the Unicode Consortium has received requests from 
webmasters who wished to indicate with a logo or banner that their site 
supports or uses Unicode.' It seems to me that these webmasters are asking 
for something that doesn't really mean anything except, presumably, 'Get 
your UTF-8 here!'

So before critiquing the design of the logo -- ugly though it is --, or 
redesigning it, I think it would be a good idea to clarify the purpose of 
the exercise.

John Hudson

Tiro Typeworks          www.tiro.com
Vancouver, BC           tiro@xxxxxxxx

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