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Re: IPA Null Consonant: msg#00623text.unicode.general
I'm not sure what Andrew is wanting since IPA does not provide any prepresentation for "null consonants" -- a null has phonetic value (consonantal or otherwise) to be represented. On the other hand a null (slashed-zero or empty set) symbol is commonly used in linguistic notation, but in phonology, and in morphological analysis lines of interlinear text. Thomas M. Widmann wrote on 05/26/2003 06:01:39 AM: > Aronson, "Georgian", p. 44: > [...] Examples: > da=v-c̣er-∅-t we will write it დავწერთ > v-c̣er-∅-t we are writing it ვწერთ > a=∅-a-šen-eb you will build it ააშენებ > ∅-a-šen-eb you are building it აშენებ > [...] These are very likely indications of a phonologically-null morpheme -- something that is often done when one item in a paradigm is phonologically unmarked (e.g. English singular as in "book" vs. "books"). > Here we establish a correspondence set in initial position: > ∅/p/p > but in order to dertermine whether the proto-phoneme was *p or *∅ > we must establish a further contrasting set [...] > > Durand, "Generative and Non-Linear Phonology", p. 127: > [r]-insertion > ∅ → r / [ə, əː, iə, eə, oə, aː, oː] #₀ V These are other common uses, showing through diachronic change or synchronic derivation the development of a phone(me) where none existed before/in underlying representation. > > I agree the EMPTY SET symbol is the right character to use. It has > > the right semantics, and in most fonts it will look sufficiently > > different from the IPA vowel symbol O WITH STROKE. > > The only alternative I can think of would be U+0030 DIGIT ZERO, but > that would look wrong in most fonts. EMPTY SET is probably the better choice for that reason. > If U+2205 EMPTY SET is indeed the right character, it might be an idea > to give it an extra name (LINGUISTIC NULL or LINGUISTIC ZERO), since > its meaning is of course not "empty set" but rather "empty element". An annotation about could be added, though I probably wouldn't suggest an alias: it isn't commonly known as "linguistic null" or "linguistic zero". If you want to see an annotation, you could make such a request to UTC. - Peter --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Constable Non-Roman Script Initiative, SIL International 7500 W. Camp Wisdom Rd., Dallas, TX 75236, USA Tel: +1 972 708 7485 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/CNxFAA/8FfwlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: unicode-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx This mailing list is just an archive. The instructions to join the true Unicode List are on http://www.unicode.org/unicode/consortium/distlist.html Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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