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RE: Character identities

At 13:27 -0800 2002-10-29, Kenneth Whistler wrote: >Michael asked: > >> My eyes have glazed over reading this discussion. What am I being >> asked to agree with? > >Here's the executive summary for those without the time to >plow through the longer exchange: > >Marco: It is o.k. (in a German-specific context) to display > an umlaut as a macron (or a tilde, or a little e above), > since that is what Germans do. > >Kent: It is *not* o.k. -- that constitutes changing a character. Kent can't be right here. 1. We have all seen examples, in print, in signage, and in handwriting of German umlauts being displayed in each of those ways. Obviously the underlying encoding of them is the same, as is the intent. 2. The fact that a + diaeresis with a superscript e glyph could be mistaken for a + superscript-e is not more troublesome than the possibility of mistaking Latin or Cyrillic o with Greek omicron. >Michael, you might have to recuse yourself, however, since when it >was suggested that displaying Devanagari characters with snowpeaked >glyphs for a Nepali hiking company would be o.k., you misunderstood >and suggested private use characters! I did admit that I did not read the sentence entirely.... -- Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/jd3IAA/8FfwlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: unicode-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx This mailing list is just an archive. The instructions to join the true Unicode List are on http://www.unicode.org/unicode/consortium/distlist.html Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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Re: Character identities

On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 09:07:16PM +0100, Marco Cimarosti wrote: > Kent Karlsson wrote: > > Marco, > > Keld, please allow me to begin with the end of your post: I really have not contributed much to this thread, I think you mean "Kent". Best regards keld ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Looking for a more powerful website? Try GeoCities for $8.95 per month. Register your domain name (http://your-name.com). More storage! No ads! http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info http://us.click.yahoo.com/auyVXB/KJoEAA/jd3IAA/8FfwlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: unicode-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx This mailing list is just an archive. The instructions to join the true Unicode List are on http://www.unicode.org/unicode/consortium/distlist.html Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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Re: RE: Character identities

>At 21:07 +0100 2002-10-29, Marco Cimarosti wrote: > >> > I'm sure Michael would agree too (at least I hope so), and many others. >> >>There are many Michaels and many "others" here... If any of them wish to >>intervene, I hope they'll rather say something new to take the discussion >>out of the loop, rather than joining one faction. > >My eyes have glazed over reading this discussion. What am I being >asked to agree with? Is it complaint with Unicode to have a font where a-umlaut has a glyph of a with e above? What about a glyph of a-macron (e.g. a handwriting font for someone who writes a-umlaut that way)? ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/jd3IAA/8FfwlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: unicode-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx This mailing list is just an archive. The instructions to join the true Unicode List are on http://www.unicode.org/unicode/consortium/distlist.html Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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Re: RE: Character identities

A 22:21 2002-10-29 +0000, Michael Everson a écrit : >At 15:56 -0600 2002-10-29, starner@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > >>Is it complaint with Unicode to have a font where a-umlaut has a glyph of >>a with e above? What about a glyph of a-macron (e.g. a handwriting font >>for someone who writes a-umlaut that way)? > >Of course it is. Glyphs are informative. [Alain] (: If they are informative, they should inform, not disinform... (; Alain ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/jd3IAA/8FfwlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: unicode-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx This mailing list is just an archive. The instructions to join the true Unicode List are on http://www.unicode.org/unicode/consortium/distlist.html Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/