Re: Doh!

Are we done with this pointless discussion?

Alex


> In other words, like the French Republic, one and undivisible, on the 
> one hand, and mathematics, on the other hand, a LaTeX editor can only 
> exist in one and only one form.
> And, as for those who don't make it in the world, it is only because 
> they don't want to.
> Regards
> --schremmer
>
> Dr.John R.Vokey wrote:
>
> > C'mon people.  LaTeX is as LaTeX is, as the quote below makes clear.. 
> >  It's cool; it's fine.  For those who dig it.  And not, for those who 
> > don't.  I have given up proselteyzing: I have done what I can do, and 
> > it rarely works.  All of my students and former students (and those 
> > who they have infected, in turn) use LaTeX.  A legacy of sorts (born 
> > of the simple rule that no M$ Crapola is tolerated on my lab 
> > computers).  The rest: don't.  They are not my concern.  As Washoe 
> > (the Chimpanzee) so aptly observed, they are ``bugs''---beyond my (or 
> > Washoe's) ken.  So what?  Leave them to M$ Absurd, and other equally 
> > laughable POS applications.  Why would you (or we) care?  Yes, we all 
> > would like LaTeX to be easier for the uninitiated.  And, no, it can't 
> > really get any easier than it is and still be LaTeX (see LyX).  So, 
> > who cares?  If they want M$ Absurd, so be it.  As a senior scientist, 
> > I demand at a minimum a pdf (in correct APA format) before I 
> > review---not some POS M$ Absurd document that rarely translates 
> > anyway.  Otherwise, I don't review.  Simple.  On the other side: a 
> > journal that refuses to review my *perfectly APA formatted pdf* (via 
> > apa.cls) submission, never sees my submissions again.  Again, simple. 
> >  You don't have to tolerate shite, so don't.  Or not: it is your 
> > life.  Pick your battles.
> >
> >
> > On 16-Nov-04, at 6:00 PM, TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 15, 2004, at 5:23 PM, Alain Schremmer wrote:
> > >
> > > > Re. Making LaTeX simple enough. I am simply not convinced that it is
> > > > not feasible.
> > >
> > >
> > > Many smart people have tried to put WYSIWYG front-ends on typesetting
> > > languages for over 25 years. They all failed. The reason is that the
> > > syntax and meaning of typesetting languages like TeX are too rich and
> > > subtle for simple-to-use visual metaphors. sooner or later, and
> > > typically sooner, the underlying language "leaks out" from under the
> > > visual interface.
> > >
> > > -- F
> >
> > --
> > John R. Vokey, PhD
> > Professor
> > B.E.R.G. - Behaviour and Evolution Research Group
> > Micro-Cognition Laboratory
> > Department of Psychology & Neuroscience
> > University of Lethbridge
> > Lethbridge, Alberta T1K 3M4
> > CANADA
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