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Re: This week's poll: Distribution for your Asterisk/AMP system(s)?: msg#00227

Subject: Re: This week's poll: Distribution for your Asterisk/AMP system(s)?
had i even a slight idea, that the word gentoo would spur such a feverish "opinion exchange", i'd probably keep my mouth shut. But, since it's too late, here's my 2 cents;


Concerning the "16 year old german kid in a mailing list". I take that this was supposed to be an attempt at mocking the gentoo community (but no offence taken). And yet, i really do not understand why. I can assure you, that the gentoo-users mailing list, and the gentoo forums, are the best and definitely quickest way to get help, get _really_ good help, and get it with a friendly twist that the gentoo community is.

On one side, i fully understand the scapegoat concept, and i have nothing to add to that (of course i would also choose a "vendor supported" distro, if i was given the option: "my ass or theirs"), but on the other hand, it is very silly to mock the "16 year old german kid", because that kid will answer your problem 10x faster than any RH or novell support guys, who most likely does not even give a shit about your problem, because he hates his job, and thinks that all the jerks out there who are having problems with the linux that his employer "supports" are just annoyances in his day, that he has to live through. But the "kid" does it for free, and he does it good, because he _likes_ doing it. And that's the big difference that money won't buy you.

Now this might be a radical example (and i want to apologize to all of the support staff that like their work and work hard to satisfy their customers), but having worked 1 year as HP-UX 2nd line support for HP, i can tell you, that customer support on the inside (the one that you get), and customer support on the outside (the one that you buy) are definitely 2 veeery different things.

Another thing: do you even have a slightest clue, how _easy_, _simple_ and comfortable it is to install asterisk on a gentoo system? I am quite sure that sean knows what i am talking about, and i will bet my ass that it is definitely _not_ so simple on any other linux.

And last, about those bugs: Do you really think, that not using gentoo will help you avoid them? What happens, when a criticla flaw is discovered in say, openssh? The openssh devs fix it, and then, the next day you just sync and re-emerge, because portage has already been updated, and you have the "bugfixed" version mere hours (installed via your package manager) after the bug has been fixed. Now let's see that on any other system....

and now, good night guys, it's 2:30 AM here, so im off to join my girlfriend in dreamland... :-)

s pozdravom
jakub krajcovic




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