Re: About the T2 Website

Should be sent directly to the ML, take care of that each time you answer

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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 08:35:38 -0700
De: Kevin Fries <kfries@xxxxxxxxx>
À: "L.M.J." <linuxmasterjedi@xxxxxxx>
Sujet: Re: [t2] About the T2 Website


I could not agree more with the premise, but the documentation is so
poor, it would be hard for anyone but those most intimate with the
project to build this page.

I work for a company that is putting together a very specialized device,
and using a Linux core.  I am now at the point where I need to start
moving towards a final build.  Up to this point, I have been using
Debian during the R&D process so that the custom software would have a
easy to adjust platform.  But for the final build, we have been looking
to something far more customized (now that the full list of required
libraries are known).

At this point, there are basically 4 platforms we are seriously
considering: Buildroot, Gentoo, LFS, and T2.

  * Buildroot is a bear to get just right, but right now is leading the
    pack of candidates.  Its best attributes are that it is expandable.
    But, sometimes it is a chore just getting the tools to compile
    completely.

  * Gentoo keeps adding too many dependencies.  Sure it is far fewer
    than standard distros, but far too many.  In many ways, Gentoo is
    missing its intended market in an attempt to be more mainstream.

  * LFS is an interesting project.  It has three major issues:
    stability; maintainability; and size.  Now when I say stability
    here, I do not mean that an LFS system crashes allot.  Instead, I
    mean that LFS itself is constantly in change, and difficult to keep
    updated.  It also insists on including all the GNU tools, causing a
    LFS system build according to default to be sizable (close to Debian
    size).  However, it is as customizable as anything on the planet.

  * T2 is the system I would most like to get working.  It has a package
    management system to make maintainability easier unlike LFS, but you
    can control the compile time parameters much like Buildroot.  Also,
    its core focus is to build a maintainable distro, which is
    essentially what I would like to do.

So this brings me to my point, and reinforcing the OP's point.  Why am I
not looking to T2 first if it will do everything I want it to do?

Simple, of the four, T2 has the worst documentation, and the worst
communication with its end user base.  I have tried scouring the
documentation, IRC, and even asked this newsgroup for assistance in
putting together my own distro... all have gone unanswered.  So T2 is
now back burnered until I can figure out how to best use it.

I need a embedded system with minimal services + X + web services +
Japanese running in two months.  So this request probably comes too late
for me.  But, I hope by sharing my experience, and thought processes, it
means that the original posters point is shown to be a valid one.  Who
knows, maybe we can reconsider T2 for our 2.0 build?

-- 
Kevin Fries
Linux Engineer
CCT, US
http://www.cctus.com
(303) 708-9228 x326

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