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RE:Monitoring for Windows2003 Active Directory: msg#00509

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Subject: RE:Monitoring for Windows2003 Active Directory

Hi list,

 

You can not have a local group( Tivoli_admin_privleges) on any DC’s, what you have mentioned below about having a local grp on a DC is a bit misty, I think you mean a DOMAIN LOCAL grp not a local grp? win2k3 has a confusing concept.

I have experienced loads of problems within my environment because they wanted domain accounts and groups across the whole solution, servers and workstations, had to delete all Tiv local and group accounts, also the WIDMAP had to be domain\tivoliaccount. Which was given domain Admins rights and added to the global Tivoli_admin_priv grp

 

The domain group (Tivoli_admin_priv) that is needed on all DC’s, really wants to be a global group not a domain group both are ok but global is preferred), the reason is for future planning and expansion of the win2k3 environment, a domain grp cannot be nested into a global grp, a global grp can be nested into another global grp as well as a domain group, in my environment they have made-up global grps which has been assigned to certain privileges (I.E bypass traverse checking grp), the global Tivoli_admin_privleges grp is nested into these certain global privileges grps, they then can be added to any Domain grp, they have done this because other 3rd party tools need some of the same privilege rights as the Tivoli_admin_privleges global grp, and certain w2k3 users need these Privileges rights for certain jobs.

 

Hope this helps

 

Nigel Mackness

Tivoli Design & Support

( Phone: xxx-xxx-xxxx(8351)

+ mailto:nigel.mackness@xxxxxxx

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don't think there are local users but local groups can be defined in the domain controller.  Just a few days ago someone mentioned that the group Tivoli_Admin_Privileges should be a local group instead of a domain group when running Tivoli on a DC.  I'm not sure whether there is a distinction between local and domain users though.  But, does it mean that if I wanted to monitor AD Domain Controllers, ITM/TMR Server needs to be part of the domain? 

 

Thanks,

Carlo Camus

Corporate Information Office - Philippines

Siemens, Inc.

 


From: owner-tme10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-tme10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bontrager, Greg
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:32 PM
To: 'tme10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [tme10] Monitoring for Windows2003 Active Directory

You are correct unless you are planning on monitoring/managing AD Domain Controllers.  Since there are no local IDs and/or groups, you will need the appropriate groups and IDs set up in the Default Domain Controller User Rights assignments.

 

Greg Bontrager
EDS Global Client Engineering - GM
248-265-9579


From: owner-tme10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-tme10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Camus Carlo
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:56 PM
To: tme10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [tme10] Monitoring for Windows2003 Active Directory

 

Is it necessary that the Tivoli Servers (and the user accounts) are part of the Active Directory Domain?  From what I know, it is only necessary that the localgroups and local accounts are setup properly.

 


From: owner-tme10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-tme10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Per Eklund
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:35 PM
To: tme10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [tme10] Monitoring for Windows2003 Active Directory


I have implement ITM for AD on windows 2003 srv.
Whe are on patch level, 5.1.1-ADO-FX01. The rm's is working fine.
You must add all the prereq, perfmon etc...


Our AD guys think the Tivoli monitors is OK.

We have do day monitors on 10 Domain controller in one big AD,
Be careful when you set up the user rights for the tme account in the domain.


Per Eklund
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Hello everyone

Has anyone implemented Tivoli Monitoring for Windows 2003 Active
Directory. Please provide suggestion

I think IBM still does not support ITM for W2k3.

Thanks in adv

saleem

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