Re: ITM

Okay, I was gonna' let this ITM berating
pass and die...but c'mon...  Both IBM and Microsoft are the respective
kings of patches, LA fixes, and major product course corrections.

As for the posting about MOM...  MOM
is a fantastic product...for monitoring Windows infrastructures.  In
fact, I believe that it just won a best of breed award.  But the reality
is that MOM is a Windows platform product.  It is a platform point
solution that does it's tasks extraordinarily well with minimal effort
(comparatively speaking).  There are and will be more integration
for the product to do other things across platforms, but the following
is unrealistic:

"I really
think all Enterprises will move to MOM 2005 in 1.5-2 years."

Tivoli is a framework.  Unicenter
is a framework.  There are and will be more frameworks.  We live
the life of implementers of frameworks.  We do things with frameworks
that would be insane to attempt with a point solution.  However, some
point solutions do things that would be ridiculous to do with a framework.
 C'est la vie...

The technical impracticalities of requested/required
monitoring and management solutions are such only as the respective tools
force them to be.  So when it comes to the solutions that we must
implement using our designated tools...there's effort, time, training...etc.


But in our area of technology...the
facts, although interesting...are irrelevant.


Thanks,


Eric C. Jones
Enterprise Systems Management
SSMT Tivoli Engineer, JP Morgan Chase
614.213.6537
eric_c_jones@xxxxxxxxxxx


Eric C Jones

jason_shamroski@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent by: owner-tme10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 01/31/2005 08:39 AM Please respond to tme10

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I can't tell what the point of this statement is? 

IBM manages the listserv and doesn't contribute much at all and they make
a ton of money from us all. 

BTW - How many companies sell services or products to shore shortcomings
in Microsoft products? 

Jason Shamroski
JP Morgan Chase




Jason Shamroski

Robert_Traill@xxxxxxx Sent by: owner-tme10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 01/29/2005 08:08 AM Please respond to tme10

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Also, ITM is another reason why customers are turning to external
consultants/experts to code ResourceModels to get back functionality present
in DM.   Notice that 1 or 2 companies are dominating this list group.
   I
do recognize that they are providing much valued input freely, but they
are
also gaining much recognition.


Rob


From: owner-tme10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 01/28/2005 08:06:34 PM
Subject: [tme10] ITM

Hi list,

is it possible to distribute an custom configurationfile together with
a
Ressource Model Profile , like the Distribution Action in DM3.7.


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