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RE: wmdist -l notification interval: msg#00493

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Subject: RE: wmdist -l notification interval

That's odd. Tivoli is the one that gave this to us when we submitted a
PMR because we were not getting timely status back from the Gateways for
Software distributions. Once we changed this parm, results came back
very quickly and it works great. We have our rpc_max_threads set to
1014.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Hamilton [mailto:HAMILGAR@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 11:31 AM
To: tme10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [tme10] wmdist -l notification interval






I'd like to make a quick comment about this suggestion.

This may not be the best way to do this because each of these
report_threads will cause a method to be spawned on the TMR server to
service the message coming from the source host. This means RPC thread
usage for each method. Each message will use a session, and each session
that is being used to pass these messages across to the TMR server is
also
using an RPC thread.

The implications of this on RPC thread usage is high, and the
possibility
of exhausting RPC threads is a high. If you exhaust RPC threads, many
bad
thing can result - epmgr hangs, oserv crash, gateway hangs, all much
worse
than slow reporting.

I'd like to suggest a better approach that is less likely to put stress
on
the environment -

Reduce the conn_retry_interval on the source host to 60 seconds. When
the
report_thread limit is reached the source host will wait for
conn_retry_interval seconds before it tries to send a new set of
messages
across to the TMR server. The default is 900 seconds, hence the
performance
problems seen with reporting.

One word of caution - the source host should not have endpoints logged
into
it if it is a gateway.


Gary R. Hamilton
Team Leader
Senior Software Engineer
IBM Software Group - Tivoli Software (UK)
Global Response Team - Europe/Middle East/Africa
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mobile: +44(0)780-820-3714
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RE: [tme10] wmdist -l
notification
28/01/2005 16:10 interval





Please respond to

tme10









This isn't exactly you're your question but it is related.
In order to get timely status back from MDIST2, you need to set the SWD
report_threads_limit on your TMR to 1 higher than the total of your
MDIST2 high + Med + low sessions.
To get the mdist2 high, med, low sessions run:
wmdist -s tmrname (where tmrname is your tmr name i.e. wtmrname)

To set the report_threads_limit run:
wswdcfg -s report_threads_limit=

To display the report_thread_limit run:
wswdcfg -s



-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Graham [mailto:brian_graham@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 8:01 PM
To: tme10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [tme10] wmdist -l notification interval


The messages should come back one level higher than what you launched
the distribution as. If you launched the distribution as high, I believe
the messages still only come back as high. This notify_interval
parameter is one of the mdist2 parameters that you can override on a per
distribution basis. I would suggest setting the mdist2 defaults to
something more reasonable, like 10 or 15 minutes, then from time to time
you might take advantage of overriding mdist2 settings with a 1 minute
or so notify_interval, for example, if you have a distribution to a
smaller number of targets.

Brian Graham
Gulf Breeze Software
www.gulfsoft.com

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-tme10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-tme10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Bernard J. Duffy
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:54 PM
To: tme10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [tme10] wmdist -l notification interval

Raluca -

I'd advise you to use caution when adjusting these settings on a
production system, particularly with large distributions. If you
"spam" your repeaters with result distributions, the result
distributions (which are usually "high" priority) can drown out other
software distribution, inventory or monitoring distributions.

Good luck,

Brian Duffy
brian.duffy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:07:12 +0200, Raluca Baciu
<raluca.baciu@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> thanks attila, now is clear.
>
> Raluca Baciu
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Peter, Attila
> To: 'tme10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 2:40 PM
> Subject: RE: [tme10] wmdist -l notification interval
>
>
> The default notification interval is not 1 minute but much higher (I
guess
> 30).
> During a distribution the results of the dist are first stored on the
> closest repeaters
> of the targets and pushed higher in the repeater hierarchy when:
>
> 1. all targets are completed
> - or -
> 2. the notification interval expires
>
> In other words if you distribute to 100 eps and those are complete
within 10
> minutes
> you get the results in a bunch after ~10 minutes. If, however, only 60
are
> completed within
> 30 minutes (default notification int) you will get only those
reported.
>
> Attila
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: owner-tme10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-tme10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Raluca Baciu
> Sent: Mittwoch, 26. Januar 2005 13:26
> To: tme10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tme10] wmdist -l notification interval
>
>
>
> Hi list,
>
> can someone please tell me why if i distribute to let's say 100 eps an
inv
> or sd profile, wmdist -e dist_id shows waiting for all subscribers
until it
> completes on all nodes and then at a certain moment returns the status
for
> all subscribers? i cannot find where form i can set the time this
> information is refreshed, i understand that default notification
interval is
> 1 minute, but I wait let's say 10 minutes and then the status for all
> targets is updated.
>
>
> thanks,
> Raluca Baciu
>
> Business Information Systems S.R.L. (BIS)
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>




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