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Hi all,

Maybe this is the wrong time, with all the development work going on,
but I wanted to get some pointers for how best to, right now, provide
geographic store redundancy, that is, keeping reasonably similar
versions of the client data in at least 2 locations physically
separated by many miles/kilometers.

I found some conceptual discussions with this google:
http://www.google.com/search?q=+redundancy+OR+%22multiple+stores%22+site%3Alists.warhead.org.uk
and in the wiki:
http://boxbackup.hostworks.ca/index.php/Future_design_changes#8._Server_Redundancy_.28grabbed_from_message_by_Ben_on_9.2F24.2F04.29

But, I'm wondering what I should do right now.

All of my outside clients are on Windows (my boxes are mixed Windows
and GNU/Linux, mostly Ubuntu).

I'm not sure at all, but I guess that the best option right now is just
rsyncing the store to a remote server, as frequently as practical,
would work reasonably well (secure, reliable, fairly network and
storage efficient, convenient, fairly easily restorable).

Is it silly to ask, to give the client user a little more control than
the rsync method above, if it is possible (with maybe 5 or 10 lines of
one-off code tweaking) to run 2 boxbackup services on the Windows
client, pointing each service to separate bbackupd.conf files wherein
the clients are pointed to geographically separated StoreHostname's?

(Separately, I thought it'd be neat to be able to, someday, have a
bbackupd.conf line like:
StoreHostname = eastcoast.domain.com westcoast.domain.com
and have the single bbackupd service make best efforts to backup to
both of them, but I presume that would take quite a bit of coding.)

Thank you!
Pete


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Re: Release Candidate 3, Debian 3.1 DeMuDi test results, non-root user

The test results were the same as root and a non-root user. petjal@demudi:~/boxbackup-0.09_plus3$ id uid=1000(petjal) gid=1000(petjal) groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev),1000(petjal) petjal@demudi:~/boxbackup-0.09_plus3$ grep FAIL box-release.log petjal@demudi:~/boxbackup-0.09_plus3$ grep FAIL box-debug.log FAILURE: Condition [time(0) < (beginTime + 40)] failed at testbackupdiff.cpp(544) FAILED: 1 tests failed backupdiff: FAILED: 1 tests failed petjal@demudi:~/boxbackup-0.09_plus3$ --- "E.W. Peter Jalajas" <pjalajas-oIlVEpD3c1LQT0dZR+AlfA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I'm running the tests as a normal user now. If I see anything > different, I'll report it. > > Now, I'd like to run some serious tests on the WinXP client. A few > of > the tests under ~/boxbackup-0.09_plus3/test look like they might be > appropriate. Any guidance on how to start going about such an > adventure would be much appreciated! I presume I could use cygwin > under WinXP for this? > > Thanks, > Pete > > --- Martin Ebourne <lists-lOE7s1aLf+QJ3nxcUk3PyQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > Should I run the tests as non-root? > > > > Definitely. You should never compile anything as root. Likewise for > > running compile tests in general. > >

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RE: How to get geographic store redundancy right now?

Hi Pete, we currently have that situation working now. I do however use a program called rdiff-backup this enables us to maintain increments of a servers state at the remote location. Our Linux boxes also run two versions of bbackupd with different conf without an issue. Do make sure that you use a SNAPSHOT system or similar on the server store of course or shut it down during backup. -----Original Message----- From: boxbackup-admin-u3BOLVezVvXQXOPxS62xeg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:boxbackup-admin-u3BOLVezVvXQXOPxS62xeg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E.W. Peter Jalajas Sent: Wednesday, 22 February 2006 4:28 PM To: Box Backup Mailing List Subject: [Box Backup] How to get geographic store redundancy right now? Hi all, Maybe this is the wrong time, with all the development work going on, but I wanted to get some pointers for how best to, right now, provide geographic store redundancy, that is, keeping reasonably similar versions of the client data in at least 2 locations physically separated by many miles/kilometers. I found some conceptual discussions with this google: http://www.google.com/search?q=+redundancy+OR+%22multiple+stores%22+site%3Al ists.warhead.org.uk and in the wiki: http://boxbackup.hostworks.ca/index.php/Future_design_changes#8._Server_Redu ndancy_.28grabbed_from_message_by_Ben_on_9.2F24.2F04.29 But, I'm wondering what I should do right now. All of my outside clients are on Windows (my boxes are mixed Windows and GNU/Linux, mostly Ubuntu). I'm not sure at all, but I guess that the best option right now is just rsyncing the store to a remote server, as frequently as practical, would work reasonably well (secure, reliable, fairly network and storage efficient, convenient, fairly easily restorable). Is it silly to ask, to give the client user a little more control than the rsync method above, if it is possible (with maybe 5 or 10 lines of one-off code tweaking) to run 2 boxbackup services on the Windows client, pointing each service to separate bbackupd.conf files wherein the clients are pointed to geographically separated StoreHostname's? (Separately, I thought it'd be neat to be able to, someday, have a bbackupd.conf line like: StoreHostname = eastcoast.domain.com westcoast.domain.com and have the single bbackupd service make best efforts to backup to both of them, but I presume that would take quite a bit of coding.) Thank you! Pete _______________________________________________ boxbackup mailing list boxbackup-u3BOLVezVvXQXOPxS62xeg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup

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Re: Release Candidate 3, Debian 3.1 DeMuDi test results, non-root user

The test results were the same as root and a non-root user. petjal@demudi:~/boxbackup-0.09_plus3$ id uid=1000(petjal) gid=1000(petjal) groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev),1000(petjal) petjal@demudi:~/boxbackup-0.09_plus3$ grep FAIL box-release.log petjal@demudi:~/boxbackup-0.09_plus3$ grep FAIL box-debug.log FAILURE: Condition [time(0) < (beginTime + 40)] failed at testbackupdiff.cpp(544) FAILED: 1 tests failed backupdiff: FAILED: 1 tests failed petjal@demudi:~/boxbackup-0.09_plus3$ --- "E.W. Peter Jalajas" <pjalajas-oIlVEpD3c1LQT0dZR+AlfA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I'm running the tests as a normal user now. If I see anything > different, I'll report it. > > Now, I'd like to run some serious tests on the WinXP client. A few > of > the tests under ~/boxbackup-0.09_plus3/test look like they might be > appropriate. Any guidance on how to start going about such an > adventure would be much appreciated! I presume I could use cygwin > under WinXP for this? > > Thanks, > Pete > > --- Martin Ebourne <lists-lOE7s1aLf+QJ3nxcUk3PyQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > Should I run the tests as non-root? > > > > Definitely. You should never compile anything as root. Likewise for > > running compile tests in general. > >

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RE: How to get geographic store redundancy right now?

Hi Pete, we currently have that situation working now. I do however use a program called rdiff-backup this enables us to maintain increments of a servers state at the remote location. Our Linux boxes also run two versions of bbackupd with different conf without an issue. Do make sure that you use a SNAPSHOT system or similar on the server store of course or shut it down during backup. -----Original Message----- From: boxbackup-admin-u3BOLVezVvXQXOPxS62xeg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:boxbackup-admin-u3BOLVezVvXQXOPxS62xeg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E.W. Peter Jalajas Sent: Wednesday, 22 February 2006 4:28 PM To: Box Backup Mailing List Subject: [Box Backup] How to get geographic store redundancy right now? Hi all, Maybe this is the wrong time, with all the development work going on, but I wanted to get some pointers for how best to, right now, provide geographic store redundancy, that is, keeping reasonably similar versions of the client data in at least 2 locations physically separated by many miles/kilometers. I found some conceptual discussions with this google: http://www.google.com/search?q=+redundancy+OR+%22multiple+stores%22+site%3Al ists.warhead.org.uk and in the wiki: http://boxbackup.hostworks.ca/index.php/Future_design_changes#8._Server_Redu ndancy_.28grabbed_from_message_by_Ben_on_9.2F24.2F04.29 But, I'm wondering what I should do right now. All of my outside clients are on Windows (my boxes are mixed Windows and GNU/Linux, mostly Ubuntu). I'm not sure at all, but I guess that the best option right now is just rsyncing the store to a remote server, as frequently as practical, would work reasonably well (secure, reliable, fairly network and storage efficient, convenient, fairly easily restorable). Is it silly to ask, to give the client user a little more control than the rsync method above, if it is possible (with maybe 5 or 10 lines of one-off code tweaking) to run 2 boxbackup services on the Windows client, pointing each service to separate bbackupd.conf files wherein the clients are pointed to geographically separated StoreHostname's? (Separately, I thought it'd be neat to be able to, someday, have a bbackupd.conf line like: StoreHostname = eastcoast.domain.com westcoast.domain.com and have the single bbackupd service make best efforts to backup to both of them, but I presume that would take quite a bit of coding.) Thank you! Pete _______________________________________________ boxbackup mailing list boxbackup-u3BOLVezVvXQXOPxS62xeg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup
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