Subject: Ideas for graphics output - msg#00058
List: security.nmap.devel
Hello,
i'd like to gather some opinions for my graphical Maps
application: any suggestion is appreciated.
The are several paradigms around.
Starting from Adriano Monteiro's proposal:
http://umit.sourceforge.net/umit_proposals_2007/umit_mapper1.png
this is a very clear interface but lacks some important infos,
eg the links between routers and net-segments are not shown at
all, and this could be confusing comparing different networks.
This is solved in the Cheops-NG representation:
http://cheops-ng.sourceforge.net/images/cheops.jpg
UmitMapper describes graphically each host:
http://umit.sourceforge.net/umit_proposals_2007/umit_mapper3.png
according to me this information should pertain mostly to the
"regular" GUI (as in umit), but in the gfx output for each host
i could put in informations about the host vulnerability level
extrapolated from some db (eg CVE), latency, etc...
My aim is to let the end user choose what informations to display
for the single hosts: this could be a sort of useful filter, since
the needed information pops out and you don't have to grep through
a long nmap output.
An example is this, where different ballons pop out:
http://afterglow.sourceforge.net/screenshot3.jpg
Last but not least, every gfx element should be as limited in size
as possible; beside, uninteresting hosts could be subjected to
culling... indeed the app needs to be scalable and render anything
from a small lan to *some* big networks. Representing all the hosts
in a class B would end up in gfx bloat, a graph explosion somewhat
like protein homology representation... d'oh! this scares me down!
Two questions:
- do you think 3d visualizations like these are confusing?
http://afterglow.sourceforge.net/screenshot1.jpg
http://projects.icapsid.net/fe3d/screens.html
- what informations would you like to find for each host?
Thanks.
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Francesco Pettene
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Re: Summer of Code
This would be awesome and I wish you luck. It would be hard for two
reasons, though.
1. java is java, not C++.
2. Java MIDP is a POS^W^Wone of the worst-designed environments I've
ever had the displeasure of using. Specifically in this case, what
passes for sockets on MIDP are nearly unusable. Good luck!
--Andy
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> I am thinking of doing a college project of porting nmap to the java MIDP
> environment so that it can be used on the mobile devices.I wanted to get
> your feedback on this?
> Can i doit through "summer of code"?
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Re: Ideas for graphics output
Personally I like to see the info about the OS, open ports etc for each
host, but I'd also like to see the hosts interconected like cheops-ng does.
The 3D representations are too messy to get any information quickly.
By the way, I think it's important to use vector graphics so it doesn't
look like crap when you resize the window, etc.
Salud.
Luis Martín.
Francesco Pettene wrote:
> Hello,
>
> i'd like to gather some opinions for my graphical Maps
> application: any suggestion is appreciated.
>
> The are several paradigms around.
> Starting from Adriano Monteiro's proposal:
>
> http://umit.sourceforge.net/umit_proposals_2007/umit_mapper1.png
>
> this is a very clear interface but lacks some important infos,
> eg the links between routers and net-segments are not shown at
> all, and this could be confusing comparing different networks.
> This is solved in the Cheops-NG representation:
>
> http://cheops-ng.sourceforge.net/images/cheops.jpg
>
> UmitMapper describes graphically each host:
>
> http://umit.sourceforge.net/umit_proposals_2007/umit_mapper3.png
>
> according to me this information should pertain mostly to the
> "regular" GUI (as in umit), but in the gfx output for each host
> i could put in informations about the host vulnerability level
> extrapolated from some db (eg CVE), latency, etc...
>
> My aim is to let the end user choose what informations to display
> for the single hosts: this could be a sort of useful filter, since
> the needed information pops out and you don't have to grep through
> a long nmap output.
> An example is this, where different ballons pop out:
>
> http://afterglow.sourceforge.net/screenshot3.jpg
>
> Last but not least, every gfx element should be as limited in size
> as possible; beside, uninteresting hosts could be subjected to
> culling... indeed the app needs to be scalable and render anything
> from a small lan to *some* big networks. Representing all the hosts
> in a class B would end up in gfx bloat, a graph explosion somewhat
> like protein homology representation... d'oh! this scares me down!
>
> Two questions:
>
> - do you think 3d visualizations like these are confusing?
> http://afterglow.sourceforge.net/screenshot1.jpg
> http://projects.icapsid.net/fe3d/screens.html
>
> - what informations would you like to find for each host?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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a use pattern for nmap --- filtering for live hosts
Suppose you've got a source command that generates a list of hosts
you should be interested in --- for some moderately expensive scan,
and with some depressing percentage of dead hosts in the mix.
Between the generator and the scanner, you can
nmap -sP -iL - | awk '/appears to be up/{print $2}'
for a fast filter to sort out the deadwood.
-Bennett
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Re: Ideas for graphics output
Personally I like to see the info about the OS, open ports etc for each
host, but I'd also like to see the hosts interconected like cheops-ng does.
The 3D representations are too messy to get any information quickly.
By the way, I think it's important to use vector graphics so it doesn't
look like crap when you resize the window, etc.
Salud.
Luis Martín.
Francesco Pettene wrote:
> Hello,
>
> i'd like to gather some opinions for my graphical Maps
> application: any suggestion is appreciated.
>
> The are several paradigms around.
> Starting from Adriano Monteiro's proposal:
>
> http://umit.sourceforge.net/umit_proposals_2007/umit_mapper1.png
>
> this is a very clear interface but lacks some important infos,
> eg the links between routers and net-segments are not shown at
> all, and this could be confusing comparing different networks.
> This is solved in the Cheops-NG representation:
>
> http://cheops-ng.sourceforge.net/images/cheops.jpg
>
> UmitMapper describes graphically each host:
>
> http://umit.sourceforge.net/umit_proposals_2007/umit_mapper3.png
>
> according to me this information should pertain mostly to the
> "regular" GUI (as in umit), but in the gfx output for each host
> i could put in informations about the host vulnerability level
> extrapolated from some db (eg CVE), latency, etc...
>
> My aim is to let the end user choose what informations to display
> for the single hosts: this could be a sort of useful filter, since
> the needed information pops out and you don't have to grep through
> a long nmap output.
> An example is this, where different ballons pop out:
>
> http://afterglow.sourceforge.net/screenshot3.jpg
>
> Last but not least, every gfx element should be as limited in size
> as possible; beside, uninteresting hosts could be subjected to
> culling... indeed the app needs to be scalable and render anything
> from a small lan to *some* big networks. Representing all the hosts
> in a class B would end up in gfx bloat, a graph explosion somewhat
> like protein homology representation... d'oh! this scares me down!
>
> Two questions:
>
> - do you think 3d visualizations like these are confusing?
> http://afterglow.sourceforge.net/screenshot1.jpg
> http://projects.icapsid.net/fe3d/screens.html
>
> - what informations would you like to find for each host?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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