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Re: Rules utilisation: msg#00163

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Subject: Re: Rules utilisation

On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 02:38, Matt Jonkman wrote:
> You're very right. That's a definite need, and something we're working
> toward at bleeding snort.
>
> What we hope to have is a form of voting system, or a confidence level.
> The success of that kind of thing very much depends on participation.
>
> We're just about done with a web based rule manager and database. Once
> that's out and functional we'll start looking at the mechanism of
> getting a confidence level of these. Ideas on how to do so are
> definitely welcome.
>
> I've been mulling the idea of some form of script mechanisms to automate
> some anonymous reporting similar to dshield, but that wouldn't give us a
> differentiation for a false positive or true positive hit. That would
> require human interpretation.
>
> Relying on voluntry voting likely wouldn't be that reliable. THe trend
> would be to only vote on rules that caused problems thus only showing us
> a negative confidence. The process of manually voting would be rather
> tedious as well.
>
> Other ideas anyone?
>

Everyone fly to Florida and vote on this issue? Oh wait, the rule is no
rules there. Hmmm, Gotta come up with another plan.

> Matt
>
> Chich Thierry wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > There is something that I don't understand. I was believing that
> > the bleeding-edge rules was done in order to test the validity
> > of the rules.
> >
> > However, I never see that there is a mecanism that allow to collect
> > experiences with bleeding-edge rules.
> >
> > I give an example: Monday, a infected computer has been plugged
> > on the internal network I am managing. This computer has initiating
> > an IRC connection and receive instructions. A dozen computers are
> > then infected with an unknow virus exploiting the Lsa vulnerability.
> > Some rules have been usefull in such circonstances :
> > the rules on LSA, the rules on IRC communication on non standard port,
> > and RXBOT rules.
> >
> > In my opinion, these kind of rules, that have proved to be usefull should
> > be distinguished. I don't know exactly how it is possible to do such a
> > thing.
> > Perhaps a vote, or something that can summarize the worth of the rules
> > on at least 3 criterions:
> > criticality
> > number of positives
> > number of false positives
> >
> >
> > Thierry
> >
> >
>
>
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