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Re: Bad (Insecure) Business Decisons [Was: Re: IPv6, C&C (not bot nets, cof: msg#01921

Subject: Re: Bad (Insecure) Business Decisons [Was: Re: IPv6, C&C (not bot nets, coffe and cats)]
It's not the meter reading portion of the links that scare me as much as remote access to substations, grid interconnect points, etc. I've seen systems as Ferg describes below and utterly simplistic dial-in, unauthenticated systems... no dialback, zippo. Utterly insane.

Best~
-dsp

Paul Ferguson wrote:
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True enough.

I've a number of conversations with several people on this issue
in the past few months that go something along the lines of:

Me: "You'd be shocked if you knew the extent of the problem."
Them: "Huh? Aren't critical systems like electrical power, etc.
not connected to the Internet?"
Me: "You'd think they wouldn't be, but you'd be wrong."

Some astoundingly stupid business decisions may put critical
infrastructure at risk?

How you ask?

Consider this simple scenario.

A regional electric company wants to remotely read residential
meters for electric consumption, but does not want to invest in
installing their own infrastructure (read: laying new fiber or
hybrid-fiber coax [HFC]) to do so, and makes a business decision
(everything boils down to dollars and cents) to use existing
infrastructure (read: Internet VPN-style connectivity) to accomplish
this feat.

Boggles the mind, eh? This exact scenario exists today.

- - ferg

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"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
 Engineering Architecture for the Internet
 fergdawg(at)netzero.net
 ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/


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