Re: Risk Management Services

According to Ryan Naraine[1], they're making 12 Million dollars a year selling that and Retina, so someone's using it. Oddly, it's the exact same amount of money that Sana just took in. Weird day in HIDS land.

I spent all night trying to massage the Mercur IMAP NTLM bug into submission. Still nothing. Sometimes the hoolios are the hardest exploits. Apparently people actually use these weird little Windows servers though so they're worth doing. That's what I'm telling myself, after 10 hours on Mercur, anyways. 

-dave
[1]http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=148

On 4/2/07, C Q <kyle.c.quest@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

There's probably two reasons why nobody wants to buy HIDS...
First, which especially applies to Blink (made by eEye), it's
because it's unusable... I turned it off and uninstalled it
after using it for just a few minutes. Second, companies
rely on their significant investements in firewalls, IPSes,
application proxies, etc and they feel that they are protected
enough (I'm not saying that they are correct in their assumptions,
but that's what they usually think :-) ).

Companies do, however, buy other types of host-based
"risk management systems" that try to protect their IP,
sensitive information, etc, which also helps them with compliance
(SOX,HIPAA,PCI,etc).

On 4/2/07, Dave Aitel < dave.aitel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

A HIDS shakeup? Sana takes in more money and Ross Brown gets fired from eEye's CEO all in the same day? I never can get anyone to buy HIDS. We often recommend it in our reports, but no company ever bites the bullet and does it. Perhaps when they think HIDS they think this: http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/content/pic2903.jpg .

I wanted to point out that Applied Security has posted the results from their shmoocon hacking contest (note that I come in last!).
http://www.appliedsec.com/conferences.html

They've also got a server set up so everyone can play, which, I have to say, takes cojones. I guess that's the sort of thing you can do when you are a sponsor for GRSecurity.

-dave

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