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Subject: Re: Latex input mode - msg#00055List: science.typesI hate to brag, but those of us with Mac OS X can enter simple formulas right in Mail. Just choose Special Characters from the Edit menu. Double click on the character you want. Bill â a better solution? On May 26, 2005, at 11:31 AM, Geoffrey Alan Washburn wrote: [The Types Forum, http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ types-list] Giuseppe Castagna wrote: which is far more readable (if your correspondent can read utf8, of course). So if you use an e-mail client that accepts Unicode (e.g. Mozilla, Thunderbird, Evolution, ...) and have iiimf unit input modes (all Linux distributions use it, I do not know whether other OS do), you may be interested to install it: it is just the matter of copying two files in the right place and adding two lines in a config file. It is available at http://www.di.ens.fr/ users/castagna/iiimf-latex.tar.gz I apologize with the persons not concerned by this mail. Another option for those interested in delving into the world of Unicode is a set of macros I developed for the Vim editor that does roughly the same thing as Giuseppe's input mode, but at a different level. You can grab script to do this from http:// www.cis.upenn.edu/~geoffw/corpus/unicode.vim. I have found this particular useful in writing signatures for the Twelf logical framework, but it should also work with Java, for example, or any other language that accepts UTF8 strings. It also includes functionality for converting the UTF8 symbols it understands back into the appropriate (La)TeX commands, if you wanted to use the package for editing (La)TeX documents. I have heard that a similar package exists for emacsen, but I have no personal experience with it. The primary problem I have found is that there is simply not a quality monospaced Unicode font with a wide selection of symbols. I might as well take the opportunity to also push the dictionary file I have been developing for documents related to programming languages, type theory, logic, mathematics, and computer science. That can be obtained from http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~geoffw/corpus/ dictionary-1.01.txt and is presently in ispell format. I hope there are no mistakes, but corrections and additions in the form of diffs are very welcome. -- [Geoff Washburn|geoffw-bBguPyWdlyqyum0STUha2w@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx|http://www.cis.upenn.edu/ ~geoffw/] Thread at a glance:
Previous Message by Date: click to view message previewRe: Latex input mode[The Types Forum, http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/types-list] Geoff Washburn writes: > The primary problem I have found > is that there is simply not a quality monospaced Unicode font with a > wide selection of symbols. Indeed. By dint of prowling Google, I actually managed to read Beppe's mail---but my font didn't have any of the interesting symbols, so everything except 'x' and '.' came out blank. Can anyone recommend a font to be used on Linux for reading such email? Norman Next Message by Date: click to view message previewRe: Latex input mode[The Types Forum, http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/types-list] Geoffrey Alan Washburn wrote: Bill Rounds wrote: I hate to brag, but those of us with Mac OS X can enter simple formulas right in Mail. Just choose Special Characters from the Edit menu. Double click on the character you want. It is really a matter of personal preference. I can do this too, but given that I have the (La)TeX command burned into my brain I find it much faster to type something like \exists than to move my hands to the mouse pull down a menu and hunt for the exists symbol. I do not want to spam TYPES any more, so I promise that this is my last mail on this topic but ... ... yes this was also my point: I can use Emacs TeX input mode (as Joe Wells suggested me some time ago) but then I have to cut and paste it in my e-mail window (since I do not like sending mails in Emacs), I could directly input unicode characters, but then I had to select them in pull down menus, character tables or remember the codepoints. So what I wanted was a solution that worked with what I currently do, that is putting Tex commands in my mails. Let me just point out two advantages. You can easily customize it: so you may want to add, say, a line to the latex.utf file that states that whenever you write "->" it is replaced by an arrow to the right; or you can disable autocompletion, for instance. Second it is quite complete since there are about 380 latex commands recognized [no, I did not write them all, I just found on Internet an XML file with the correspondences of latex commands and codepoints and wrote a 5 lines CDuce program (for those who know) that generates the table.] For OSX, well IIIMF works with X-Windows so in principle you should be able to use it under the XWindows that comes with Fink, but surely there must be far smarter ways. Ciao ---Beppe--- Previous Message by Thread: click to view message previewRe: Latex input mode[The Types Forum, http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/types-list] apostolo-y12yqu3BuI/JryvfcubUmFAUjnlXr6A1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: First it is not a Linux specific problem: All OSes support common font formats. Now, a suitable font is Free Monospaced from the Free Software Foundation. Like Giuseppe I do not want to spam the list further as this becomes increasingly offtopic, but the key point in my original statement was that there is a lack of "quality" monospaced fonts. While I admire and appreciate what the Freefont project has done, "Free Monospaced" still needs quite a bit of work before is as usuable "on screen" as some of the more mature monospaced typefaces that concentrate upon the ASCII or the Latin-1 code sets. That said, to my knowledge there are almost no commerical monospace fonts that concentrate on covering a wide range of glyphs either. There is "Everson Mono", a shareware font, but my impression of the overall quality was that it was not much better than "Free Monospaced". I have not tried comparing their respective coverage of glyphs. However, there is also the debate as to whether continuing to use monospaced typefaces, rather than proportional typefaces, makes sense in modern software. At least, those of you out there are designing new tools ought to keep this in mind. -- [Geoff Washburn|geoffw-bBguPyWdlyqyum0STUha2w@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx|http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~geoffw/] Next Message by Thread: click to view message previewRe: Latex input mode[The Types Forum, http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/types-list] Geoffrey Alan Washburn wrote: Bill Rounds wrote: I hate to brag, but those of us with Mac OS X can enter simple formulas right in Mail. Just choose Special Characters from the Edit menu. Double click on the character you want. It is really a matter of personal preference. I can do this too, but given that I have the (La)TeX command burned into my brain I find it much faster to type something like \exists than to move my hands to the mouse pull down a menu and hunt for the exists symbol. I do not want to spam TYPES any more, so I promise that this is my last mail on this topic but ... ... yes this was also my point: I can use Emacs TeX input mode (as Joe Wells suggested me some time ago) but then I have to cut and paste it in my e-mail window (since I do not like sending mails in Emacs), I could directly input unicode characters, but then I had to select them in pull down menus, character tables or remember the codepoints. So what I wanted was a solution that worked with what I currently do, that is putting Tex commands in my mails. Let me just point out two advantages. You can easily customize it: so you may want to add, say, a line to the latex.utf file that states that whenever you write "->" it is replaced by an arrow to the right; or you can disable autocompletion, for instance. Second it is quite complete since there are about 380 latex commands recognized [no, I did not write them all, I just found on Internet an XML file with the correspondences of latex commands and codepoints and wrote a 5 lines CDuce program (for those who know) that generates the table.] For OSX, well IIIMF works with X-Windows so in principle you should be able to use it under the XWindows that comes with Fink, but surely there must be far smarter ways. Ciao ---Beppe--- Loading Comments...
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