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Re: BV on display: msg#00001science.mathematics.frogs
Hi Alwen, > If I understood your system correctly, I think it actually proves more > formulas (or structures) than BV. You're absolutely right. I was trying to cook up a system wherein the q_ rule comes about as a result of the seq introduction rules, rather than explicitly stating it. There seem to be a few distinct logics floating around here. Let's call the system consisting of the display postulates exactly as I gave them before together with the following seq introduction rules d1: X |- A Y |- B A |- X B |- Y ---------------- --------------- X;Y |- A<B A<B |- X;Y A;B |- X X |- A;B ========= ======== A<B |- X X |- A<B This is the original system I started with and I am pretty sure that it does not capture all of BV, since I can't find a way to make it simulate the proof of your counterexample (essentially, it has trouble applying the q_ rule deeply). We can fix this by explicitly adding in the q_ rule and its dual: X |- (A,B);(A',B') (A,B);(A',B') |- X ------------------- ------------------- X |- (A;A'),(B;B') (A;A'),(B;B') |- X Let's call this system d2 and let's also go crazy and call the system from my previous email d3. For a given di, let's say that di' is the di with the display postulates for the semicolon restricted to non-units. If D and D' are two calclui, let D < D' mean that the set of provable structures of D is contained in that of D'. Then, we have the following: d1 < d2 = d3 The example you gave shows that we also have di' < di. What I believe is that BV = d2' and that d2' \ne d3'. I'm fairly confident that all of these relations are true, though it is pretty late this end of the world so I haven't checked it properly yet. best, Jon -- http://rsise.anu.edu.au/~jon |
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