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Re: new s-c-soundcard in rawhide: msg#00010

Subject: Re: new s-c-soundcard in rawhide
Martin Stransky (stransky@xxxxxxxxxx) said: 
> >The sound test failed when I had rhythmbox running. 
> 
> Do you think it's a bug?

Depends. Opening up a gst pipleine to play the test sound may be
overkill.

> >1) I'm supposed to pick a PCM device and know what the difference is
> >   between:
> >   
> >   Intel 82801DB-ICH4
> >   Intel 82801DB-ICH4 - MIC ADC
> >   Intel 82801DB-ICH4 - MIC2 ADC
> >   Intel 82801DB-ICH4 - ADC2
> >   Intel 82801DB-ICH4 - IEC958
> >  
> >   intuitively? (Moreover, I'm asked to do this in two different places.)
> 
> These names depend on driver writer, if you don't know just use the 
> default. Optionally I can move it to some "advanced" settings.

What situations would someone logically wan to suggest a non-default?
Using SPDIF? Something else?

> >3) How is the user supposed to know whether to use kudzu, /proc, or HAL
> >   detection? Why are they even *given* a choice???
> >
> >I'm failing to see what sort of usage case this is solving. Surely this
> >should all just work?
> 
> It's because:
> 
> kudzu detects only internal cards (kudzu doesn't detect USB cards well), 
> but it works even if you don't have loaded drivers. So you can reload 
> drivers for your card if something bad happens, you have ISA card and so on.

But this isn't something the user can fix, so why are we handling it here?

I guess my concern is, why are we giving the user a 'test if it works ->
ok, it didn't -> punt' algorithm? Generally, they would get the same
result if they started up their sound app and noticed it didn't work -
what specific cases is this tool able to fix for them?

> >(I note we have a completely different Sound preference anyway, which is
> >somewhat simpler.)
> 
> I've never heard anything about "Sound preference", so if there is 
> something like that can I read it somewhere?

System->Prefereces->Sound under GNOME. KDE may have something else entirely.

Bill

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