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Re: system-config-soundcard: msg#00010

Subject: Re: system-config-soundcard
Le ven 01/10/2004 à 13:28, Paul Nasrat a écrit :

> Issues with initscripts, alsa and udev interoperability:

I know this. A spend time with udev to have something like scsi_id but
with ide. Works well here :-). Not "released" because not very useful (I
do it for fun) and it's in alpha stage (perhaps it will stay).

> The above is a bug in initscripts - it should be reported in bugzilla.

No bug in initscripts here.
Feel free to file a bug report if you want.

> * You say that asound.conf is for the end-user.

Only one time I complain about this issue and don't "bloat" bugzilla
with this. I state that is not the opinion of Red Hat and don't I speak
about this again.
proof : My version of system-config-soundcard use /etc/asound.conf even
if I don't like this. And I don't plan to add this "feature".

> Asking you to break down your request into manageable chunks.

I can't/don't want. Too much work.

> Again this is a problem related to udev, etc.

Please, read the bug report !
I (Bill first in mailing), say this should be resolve with udev, And I
ask to move this issue to udev :
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133535#c11

Note, I ask again to move this bug to udev :
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-October/msg00004.html

And in this bug I am not taking about asound.conf.
So please, stop this !
You are confusing other people (if there is some else ready this
"stupid" thread).

> patchutils can help with diff management - if you haven't used them I
> really suggest you play with them.

Well, I am a full time developer (C mostly) from 8 years, but thank to
the advice.

> If you don't have time to break it down, but have an explanation of
> everything you are doing

Already done.

> I can't do this right now, but can you
> post a NEW post to the list with just a link to your patch

Already pointed :
http://feliciano.matias.free.fr/system-config-soundcard/

> set to fedora-patches-list

Never asked to include my patch in FC3. I state from the very beginning
that's to late.

> and join #fedora-bugweek on irc.freenode.net to poke
> people to triage your patches.

Don't like irc because English :-)

I am putting some bugs report in bugzilla in the hope to make things
more clear.

> One think I'm thinking of - which other config maintainers may have
> opinions on is moving development in freeze to a branch so things can
> still proceed.

Right now, I don't have problem with how Red Hat manage the Fedora
project. Only pointed sometimes that communication in general is laking
and about rpm not signed.

> One of the things I'm trying to explain is *why* we like
> to have split patches broken down by bug or individual feature.

Since I am a developer, I know this :-)
And you should know that sometime it's not possible/easy to have "sweet"
independent patchs for a stable version. This is why there are Linux 2.4
and 2.5 for example. This is why backport can be so hard, ...

> I reiterate, that I personally found it hard to read.

OK, sometimes I am not perfect :-)

> when you are done why not post a mail summarising the bug
> numbers here.

This will be done.


Don't get me wrong. I LOVE Red Hat and Fedora and I use Red Hat since
release 4.2 and at home exclusively linux since rh5.2.
Red Hat is a very respectable company which do a _very_ great jobs in
improving GNU/Linux.
Really, I am honest.

It's not the first time I am here in debugging or helping other
testers/developers. Mainly things goes well.

I don't like to reply to this kind of message because you are mostly
right. But you seems to treat me as a newbie that need some advice to
work with the community.
It's not the first time I work with the community (not only with Red
Hat) nor the last. I am not a "popular" nor a great hacker, but if I
feel I can help, I do.
Sure I need some advices. But I am not a newbie :-)

Can you image Bastien don't manage well his communication with me ?
Seems you don't.

Forget this, there is nothing "serious".

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