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Re: Re: thirsty casey and other general questions: msg#00656

Subject: Re: Re: thirsty casey and other general questions
until Theresa gets back to you, you can check our website 
felinelymphomacaregivers.org -- there are a couple of sections on lab values.

Cyndee Trower
www.1Nature.com --Yoga, Reiki, and Cornish Rex cats
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ealsip 
  To: feline_lymphoma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:59 PM
  Subject: [feline_lymphoma] Re: thirsty casey and other general questions


  theresa-

  do you know what the blood test is called that includes the kidney 
  and liver values?  when i've asked about kidney and liver function 
  (because i know that is important to monitor with everything else he 
  has going on) they've always said that everything looks good.  i 
  could have sworn it was just a cbc.  

  i'll have to double check on that and get back to you all.

  thanks as always for the good info.

  emily


  --- In feline_lymphoma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tbug57" <tbug57@xxxx> wrote:
  >
  > Hi Emily,
  > 
  > A CBC only checks things like white blood count, red blood count,
  > hematocrit, lymphocytes, neutrophils, etc.  In other words, just 
  the blood
  > components.  It does not check for things like kidney function, 
  diabetes,
  > etc.  If they have not done a full blood panel, including the test 
  for
  > diabetes, and a kidney panel, I would ask them to do one when you 
  go back.
  > Be sure and ask before they draw the blood for the CBC.  It only 
  takes a
  > small amount more, but I never wanted them to have to stick the 
  kitty more
  > than once.
  > 
  > Someone else had mentioned that some cats may develop diabetes 
  right away on
  > Prednisone, and others may develop it gradually over a few years, 
  and some
  > never develop diabetes at all on Pred.  Sometimes when the 
  Prednisone is
  > removed from the regimen, the diabetes disappears, too.  I believe 
  that they
  > look for glucose levels in the blood, but it can be somewhat 
  elevated due to
  > stress.  Someone else had mentioned the urine strips that you can 
  get, and
  > that may give your vet an idea of whether or not to pursue that.
  > 
  > If your cat is developing prednisone-induced diabetes, you can 
  discontinue
  > that drug and just use other possibilities.
  > 
  > Someone with a more scientific mind will have to conquer the 
  question of why
  > they use pred as part of many chemo protocols.  I have no idea, I 
  just know
  > that they do.  (I seem to remember something about the lymphoma 
  being
  > something like an auto-immune disease, and you have to suppress the 
  body
  > from fighting itself, since the cells have kind of gone wild and are
  > destroying the good cells.  Does that make any kind of sense?)
  > 
  > Hugs,
  > 
  > 
  > 
  >                               Theresa,
  >                                Missouri, USA
  > 
  > 
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: feline_lymphoma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > [mailto:feline_lymphoma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of ealsip
  > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 7:56 PM
  > To: feline_lymphoma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > Subject: [feline_lymphoma] thirsty casey and other general questions
  > 
  > *         belinda and theresa-
  > 
  > thanks for the responses, guys!  wouldn't diabetes show up on a cbc?
  > 
  > the antibiotic he's taking, simplicef, is prescribed for dogs with
  > skin infections.  why casey is taking it for an upper-respiratory
  > infection is beyond me.  i'll figure this out when we go on 
  wednesday.
  > 
  > on to other questions.....  i know the pred suppresses inflammation,
  > but it also suppresses the immune system, leaving the body
  > susceptible to all sorts of things like u.r.i. and i would think 
  also
  > allowing the lymphoma to grow unassulted by the body's normal immune
  > response.  why then do we prescribe it for lymphoma kitties?  good
  > for fighting the inflammatory process but bad because it lets other
  > things grow and attack unchecked.
  > 
  > also, i've read/heard that long term use can cause diabetes.  how
  > does that happen?  how long would that take to occur?  (especially
  > curious on this point since belinda mentioned it in relation to
  > excessive thirst).
  > 
  > steroids are very freaky nasty things, aren't they!!!!!
  > 
  > emily
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  >   _____
  > 
  > 
  > 
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