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Re: Losing the canned food battle - ideas?: msg#00568

Subject: Re: Losing the canned food battle - ideas?
Hi Theresa,
Thank you so much for replying.  I didn't think I was going to 
change my mind about allowing Darcy to eat what he wants when I 
posted, but it sure helps to get support.  We are SO good at feeling 
guilty when it comes to our sick ones!

I know about the Innova Evo: I got some for Darcy as treats a while 
back.  I've made a deal with him.  If he'll eat some canned food in 
the morning, I'll let him have Evo and Royal Canin for his other 
meals.  He's always been a good water drinker, and he was getting 
sub-q fluids 3 times a week, which we've upped to every other day so 
make sure he stays nicely hydrated.  The little bit of wet food 
won't make much of a difference, but he's got a herpes virus which 
is nicely kept in check with L-lysine.  The caps are huge, but since 
the stuff is tasteless I mix it in with his food.  I hope he 
understands what a big favor I'm doing him - he takes enough pills 
as it is.

I think I've found a compromise I can live with: some wet food, the 
best dry food and lots of fluids.  The big bonus here is that he's 
so happy to be allowed to eat his crunchies -- and we do want him to 
be happy.  We also want him to put on some weight.

Thank you for the mold warning.  I knew about not wetting dry food, 
but I didn't know that it could grow mold just by contact with a 
cat's saliva.  It makes sense.  Fortunately, no food is left out 
here in between meals: Nibbles has a urinary problem and needs a 
special diet.  He eats in the spare room, Darcy in my bedroom, and 
the girls in the kitchen.  All food is removed after meals.  It's 
almost a full-time job!

Marie, Alice, Zoe, Mr. Darcy, Bolivia and Nibbles

--- In feline_lymphoma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tbug57" <tbug57@xxxx> wrote:
>
> Marie,
> 
> I realize that we want the canned food for the low-carb 
ingredients, and for
> the moisture content.  However, there are a couple of good foods 
for
> dry-food junkies.  The Royal Canin Dry is supposed to be a pretty 
good food,
> and if that is all Darcy will eat, then give it to her and 
encourage her to
> drink lots of water.  I would not recommend mixing the water with 
the food,
> unless you are going to take it away and replace it with fresh 
food fairly
> frequently.  Dry food can grow mold, especially if it is not the 
freshest
> when you get it from the store.  Always check the "use by" or 
freshness
> dates.
> 
> If you can get it, EVO by Innova is supposed to be one of the best 
dry foods
> for dry food junkies.  It has no grains, and the first few 
ingredients are
> meat.  They say on the bag that it has a high protein content and 
low
> carbohydrate level.  That is what I had always wanted for my 
lymphoma kitty.
> Unfortunately, this only came out recently.  However, it is very 
much
> appreciated by my IBD cat, who also needs a low-grain, low-
carbohydrate,
> high-protein diet.  I feed her mostly canned, which she will eat, 
but she
> loves the few munchies of Innova that I can give her without her 
having
> explosion problems.  (This food was highly thought of by a few 
vets I know
> of who have studied nutrition in cats more than just the brief 
seminar they
> get sponsored by some cat food companies.)  I got mine at 
Petfooddirect, and
> right now, there is a 22% off coupon, which more than pays for 
shipping when
> I order my canned food.  Write me off-list if you want me to 
forward the
> coupon to you.  (I don't always see the posts on the lists in 
time.)
> 
> They are currently having a problem with some dry food that had 
corn as an
> ingredient, and the corn was contaminated with Aflatoxin, a mold, 
which has
> caused the death of several dogs along the east coast.  They have 
recalled
> all the dog and cat food that had corn as an ingredient made by 
that
> manufacturer at the suspect plant.  It has probably already been 
discussed
> here.  I haven't been able to keep up again and seem to be coming 
down with
> a cold now.  My local news took advantage of the opportunity to 
remind us of
> the problem with mold forming in dry food that has been left out 
because of
> moisture from the saliva or water, and reminding us to throw it 
out at least
> every day and replace with fresh food, even though we are not in 
the
> affected area.  We definitely want to take every precaution not to 
add any
> physical stress to our sick kitties.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> 
>                               Theresa,
>                                Missouri, USA
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: feline_lymphoma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:feline_lymphoma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Marie
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 8:09 AM
> To: feline_lymphoma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [feline_lymphoma] Losing the canned food battle - ideas?
> 
> *         Hi All,
> After three months of coaxing, cajoling and just plain begging,
> getting Darcy to eat canned food has become even more difficult.
> I've tried everything I can get ahold of, but he's not interested.
> What he wants is dry food.  When I let him out of my bedroom after
> his "meals", he runs to the kitchen to see if the girls have left
> anything in their bowls.  They eat Royal Canin dry, which is a very
> good food.  I empty their bowls before I let Darcy out, but on the
> few occasions when I forgot he gobbled down whatever was left.
> 
> I know about the carbohydrate issue; I also know that canned food 
is
> easier for him to process.  He's got small cell GI lymphoma.  The
> fact that his lower intestine shows definite thickening makes it
> even more important for him to eat highly digestible food.
> 
> However, he's losing weight because he won't eat enough canned 
food,
> even with the addition of periactin.   More importantly, he's not
> enjoying his food ? and to me that is a major part of his quality 
of
> life.  So I've decided, rather reluctantly, to allow him to eat 
what
> he wants.  After all, it's not as if this is a temporary situation
> in his life, and he can go back to eating what he likes when he 
gets
> better ? he's not going to get better.  Of course I would prefer
> that he eat what's best for him, but I also want him to enjoy the
> rest of his little life as much as possible.
> 
> Have any of you gone through this?  What did you do?
> 
> Any ideas, suggestions, thoughts would be appreciated.
> 
> Marie and one very stubborn Mr. Darcy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   _____
> 
> 
> 
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