Subject: Re: Hennessy Hammock sleeping pad/heat reflector -
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I have used both closed cell foam("Z" rest, folds up
like an accordian, as well as regular roll type foam),
and reflectex insulation(like the windshield
reflectors). Reflectex can be bought at home
improvement stores(eg Lowes, Home Depot and such).

The reflectex I formed wider at my shoulders by adding
two smaller strips of it taped to the sides, which
fold up a bit around my shoulders. Tip: use reflectex
scraps to make pot/cup or bowl cozies if you camp out
a lot. You can use the rest of a roll for insulating
around the house eg cellar windows, garage doors,
behind radiators & such.

I've sleept great using both, but now stick with
reflectex(for the hammock) because of the "form fit",
and that it rolls a bit smaller. The reflectex does
"wear out" a bit under heavy use (eg using every nite
for a month), but its also cheap.

I just bought my first thermarest (a new orange 3/4
model), but won't have a chance to try it in my
hammock untill late summer-(I'm bringing a tent on my
Hungary to Turkey tour in a couple weeks). I have
noticed that the new thermarest has an "anti-slide"
type of coating which will probably suit the hammock
camping very well.

Jon, in Waltham MA

--- Jeff Kruys <jkruys-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Just wondering what other bike-touring HH owners are
> using for a
> sleeping pad. I'm a new HH (Explorer Ultralight
> A-Sym for my 6'3"
> person) owner and have only had a chance to set it
> up once so far. I've
> got a "classic" extra-thick Thermarest and I don't
> like the way that it
> sits in the hammock and I don't think it'll stay
> under me if I try
> sleeping on it. If I can find something that takes
> up less space in my
> panniers then I'm all for it. I've read the
> suggestions on various
> websites regarding auto windshield reflectors and
> closed-cell foam
> pads, but the products in those categories that I
> see at Canadian Tire
> or Walmart look like they'll take up even more
> pannier or racktop space
> than the Thermarest. Any magic solutions? Thanks!
>
> Jeff -- enslaved for the foreseeable future in
> Victoria, BC, Canada
>
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Hennessy Hammock sleeping pad/heat reflector

Just wondering what other bike-touring HH owners are using for a sleeping pad. I'm a new HH (Explorer Ultralight A-Sym for my 6'3" person) owner and have only had a chance to set it up once so far. I've got a "classic" extra-thick Thermarest and I don't like the way that it sits in the hammock and I don't think it'll stay under me if I try sleeping on it. If I can find something that takes up less space in my panniers then I'm all for it. I've read the suggestions on various websites regarding auto windshield reflectors and closed-cell foam pads, but the products in those categories that I see at Canadian Tire or Walmart look like they'll take up even more pannier or racktop space than the Thermarest. Any magic solutions? Thanks! Jeff -- enslaved for the foreseeable future in Victoria, BC, Canada

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Once again this group along with the "Bobbies" (Aye, the Bob's have all gone Brit with the Mercians!) has proved a wealth of information. Much thanks to all! After much thought from going minimalist (thanks, Randy!) with the hammock, or otherwise, I chose otherwise. The Hennessey Hammock with the free larger Hex tarp seemed like the deal to me. Tom's wife, Ann, could not have been more gracious and helpful with my questions. But when I found out that there was a hammock maker in my own backyard, I decided to pay the extra cost and support the locals. I'm ordering a Clark's Ultralight, and purchasing the larger rain fly. http://www.junglehammock.com/ultrafeatures.php Along with the hammock, I have purchased a Big Agnes sleeping bag for the express reason that instead of insulation in the bottom, it has a sleeve for the pad, and my thoughts are it will keep the pad from moving around as much in the hammock. It should be an interesting summer! Lyndon Salt Lake City

Subject: Re: Hennessy Hammock sleeping pad/heat reflector -msg#00078