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Subject: rec.games.pinball - 25 new messages in 16 topics - digest - msg#00202
rec.games.pinball
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Today's topics:
* FS 2005 Stern Sopranos - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/bde3a12cae3c50c7?hl=en
* Thanks to Brian Dendis - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/ffd8aaf203d34a29?hl=en
* Scared Stiff frogs getting stuck on ramp lip - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/f2f0e725f23214f7?hl=en
* Pinball Quiz question: Name the pinball machine at the Vatican... - 5
messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/808675fc411c54f7?hl=en
* FS: Collector Quality Addams Family in Colorado Springs - 2 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/c4f0e2619a164fe8?hl=en
* Fs, Bally's Dolly Parton in lower Michigan - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/d286ce849b9235f5?hl=en
* Water 1, Basement Arcade 0 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/1602f964da72812e?hl=en
* Wizard of OZ Woz - I hope not. - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/a057387e4d170b7f?hl=en
* Riverboat Gambler nudity - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/7ccdb0761de11311?hl=en
* Cold Hard Bitch EM.... Where can I find one? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/e39098af65bb1d08?hl=en
* Auto Plunger Problems POTC - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/1d23666752fa5d34?hl=en
* Coil Problems with BH - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/c86434fa1711189a?hl=en
* WPC-95 Playfield with strange issue... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/f5e16cbfb6d8384c?hl=en
* Kingsport Auction Results 5-7-11 - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/abcd0482e5693e7f?hl=en
* Tech Advice Needed: Maverick Code - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/355fa88f2f72350d?hl=en
* TECH: A084-91864 "Sounds Deluxe" schematic - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/5a2be8151d8761dc?hl=en
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TOPIC: FS 2005 Stern Sopranos
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/bde3a12cae3c50c7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:16 am
From: YenningComity
On May 7, 8:29 pm, YenningComity <yenningcom...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Selling my Sopranos. Less than 30 plays since I shopped out the
> machine. Cabinet has no flipper button wear. Goody bag still sealed.
> Pictures upon request.
>
> Cash price is 3400
>
> Open to trades on other machines.
>
> Machine is located in Indianapolis Indiana.
Morning Bump
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TOPIC: Thanks to Brian Dendis
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/ffd8aaf203d34a29?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:20 am
From: Mike D
On May 7, 11:26 pm, toyboy6 <scott.mont...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Looks like it's coming along nicely Mike. Your original playfield has
> been sent off to get kruzman'd :)
>
> If I ever do a full restore on my WH20, I'm sure I'll have plenty of
> questions for you. Thanks for documenting your progress.
>
> Scott
Thanks Scott. I'm sure Ron will make the playfield look brand new.
Just drop me a line when you get ready to fix up your Wh2O and I'd be
happy to help you out.
Mike
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TOPIC: Scared Stiff frogs getting stuck on ramp lip
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/f2f0e725f23214f7?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:20 am
From: pinballmike217
On May 7, 10:04 pm, i...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> I just put new ramps on my Scared Stiff and the left and center frog
> get hung up on the lip of the new ramp almost every time. I noticed
> the new ramps do not have the lip cut away in this area as the
> originals. Aside from cutting on my new, already installed ramp or
> taking a heat gun or razor to my frogs, is there a prefered method to
> fix this? Do they sell smaller frogs on a stick somewhere? This pisses
> me off!
> -Ed
I had an NOS Bony Beast ramp I just installed an a restoration. It
also had to be cut down. I couldn't believe it was a factory part but
it was. It still had the big factory part tag attached to it and was
complete and fully assembled.
Anyway I came up with a way to cut it. I heated up the tip of a box
knife with a plumbers torch and cut right through the plastic with it.
It went through like butter. Dremels are fine but if you slip you'll
scratch up your nice ramp. Practice on a junk ramp first. It is an
easy way to do a tricky job.
Mike
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:26 am
From: jackal2001
I had talked to pinballball inc about this some time ago. They stated
that they didn't want to compromise the strength of their ramps by
removing that material. I told them, there is nothing in that section
of the ramp that would break if they did that.
I know it is a pita to have the frog stick up all the time as mine did
it too.
I would try a hot razor before going with a dremel, unless you can
clamp a piece of metal in there to use as a guide.
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TOPIC: Pinball Quiz question: Name the pinball machine at the Vatican...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/808675fc411c54f7?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:26 am
From: Pinmeister
On May 8, 6:54 am, Mike in Maryland <pinbal...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> In the late 1980's, there was a pinball machine above St. Peter's
> sacristy for enrolled Vatican altar boys....name that machine....
Pope a card?
George M.
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:33 am
From: William Brower
On May 8, 8:54 am, Mike in Maryland <pinbal...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> In the late 1980's, there was a pinball machine above St. Peter's
> sacristy for enrolled Vatican altar boys....name that machine....
Jacks Open
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:37 am
From: captkirk
On May 8, 8:54 am, Mike in Maryland <pinbal...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> In the late 1980's, there was a pinball machine above St. Peter's
> sacristy for enrolled Vatican altar boys....name that machine....
I think it was a modified "Playboy" ;-)
captkirk
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:58 am
From: Enzo
>
> > In the late 1980's, there was a pinball machine above St. Peter's
> > sacristy for enrolled Vatican altar boys....name that machine....
>
GTB Texas Ranger?
Enzo
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:00 am
From: mike
On May 8, 6:58 am, Enzo <jackso...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > In the late 1980's, there was a pinball machine above St. Peter's
> > > sacristy for enrolled Vatican altar boys....name that machine....
>
> GTB Texas Ranger?
>
> Enzo
Was it Ding Dong? thank pin looks kinda pervy.
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TOPIC: FS: Collector Quality Addams Family in Colorado Springs
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/c4f0e2619a164fe8?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:28 am
From: Mike D
On May 8, 8:56 am, "Mr. 68" <M...@xxxxx> wrote:
> For a long while I had a stalker here on RGP that would rate every
> single post I made with a single star. Can you imagine the small,
> miserable life some people lead?
>
> FYI: Drain Man is a solid citizen in the pinball community. Good luck
> with the sale, Curt.
>
> Kim - CARGPB #36http://www.WrongCrowdProductions.com/
> Over 10 Billion sold – We are the Google of Glare Guards
Kim, I usually rate your posts with at least 2 stars - don't sell me
short.
;)
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:41 am
From: shlockdoc
On Apr 22, 11:05 am, Drain Man <curtu...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Complete top to bottom restoration by Bryan Kelly. New cabinet,
> playfield, coin door, topper, Uncle Lester mod, bookcase floor and
> backboard decal added, Cliffy protectors... just about every component
> on the game is new. All boards serviced by Coin OP Cauldron. Game
> looks and plays like new.
>
> $7500
>
> Pics available on request. Prefer local sale or local pickup but can
> ship NAVL as well.
>
> Thanks for looking...
>
> Curt
Curt is tops to buy a game from. I bought a few from him and were
packed perfectly and shipped without a hitch. Buy with extreme
confidence. Best of luck with the sale.
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TOPIC: Fs, Bally's Dolly Parton in lower Michigan
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/d286ce849b9235f5?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:29 am
From: Steve Kulpa
On May 7, 11:58 pm, City Phoenix <carro...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On May 7, 8:10 pm, John Dayhuff <pinhead6...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Its official, after 12 years of ownership I'd decided to sell my
> > beloved Dolly Parton machine. This was a full restoration by Ray and
> > Allen Shope at just about the time they went BIG with there Treasure
> > Cove restoration business and set the highest standards at that time
> > for Pinball restoration.
>
> > They totaly repainted the cabinet and touched up the playfield as
> > well. The rubbers are still white and the game plays 100%, but might
> > need a socket replaced here and there as all the older Ballys do these
> > days. The backglass is very nice as well but not a total 10, but I'd
> > say its 9.9 in my opinion. All plastics are perfect and the drop
> > targets and caps are very nice too. Displays are still nice and
> > crisp. I have all the keys, cash box and manual to go with it.
>
> > This is a nice clean game that I've taken care of for a long time
> > since I picked it up in person in Kentucky years ago. Its gotten
> > little play in my larger then normal collection and I've enjoyed
> > having it here but its time to let it go.
>
> > I'm asking $1000 obo for the game so please no low ball offers as this
> > would not be a canidate for a Lost Vegas make over.
>
> > Pictures are available and shipping available if you set it up.
>
> > Thanks
>
> > John P. Dayhuff
> > Battle Creek, Mi
> > 269-979-3836
>
> I heard that game is top heavy?
"I would give about a year's pay to peek under there"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcKgP4E0L90
steve
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Steve Kulpa (cargpb10)
Nolensville, TN
http://stevekulpa.net/pinball/pinball.htm - Pinball
http://stevekulpa.net/faces/rgpidx.htm - Faces
http://stevekulpa.net/pinrepair/pinrepair.htm - Repair
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TOPIC: Water 1, Basement Arcade 0
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/1602f964da72812e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:30 am
From: djcharlie17
Chris... sorry to see this. Been there, and it's never good.
Best of luck with the salvage! Sure hope it works out as well as it
can anyway.
Charlie
http://www.spookypinball.com
On Apr 29, 8:15 pm, SilverUnicorn <wmsp...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Well, I am tired. Went downstairs this morning to find water in the
> basement. Sump Pump was not working. I freaked! Had a funeral to
> attend, then got to work cleaning up the mess.
>
> 4 hours of shop vac and throwing stuff away. The damage to machines
> seems minimal actualy, and for that I am VERY thankful! As you may
> know, I store some games for EagleTG and this had me physically sick
> today.
>
> The pins are fine. Pac man seems okay, Space Duel and Super Monaco GP
> are dry, as seems to be the candy cabinet. The 2 Syatem 1 cabinets
> seemed to get it the worst, but they were int he worst condition to
> begin with. so that is actually not so bad. Those got wet inside but
> nothing else seemed to. The basement is a disaster now and I have
> dehumidifiers and fans running to dry things out.
>
> What is still REALLY wet is the carpet under the pool table. Tried to
> shop vac that the best I could and have a fan on it now. I can't move
> the pool table, so I will hope for the best there.
>
> Thanks for the support, it is very much appreciated. I learned that
> corregated cardboard can absorb about 1.7 million time it's weight in
> water.
>
> Things I know I lost:
> Signed posters from John Popaduik (4)
> Lots of Hyperball parts
> LOTS of pinball flyers
> Black Knight manual
> 2 neon signs (transformers got wet).
> about 20 pinball coils
> Misc Beer advertising items
>
> Trying to dry out some of that stuff to see if it is salvagable, we'll
> see.
>
> Here are some post-work pics, though it's hard to see the water or get
> an idea of how much there was. I know others have had it much worse,
> and I know I got off relatively lucky.
>
> http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5188/5671165464_d39887e17b.jpghttp://farm6.static.flickr.com/5110/5671165800_bd2078b341.jpghttp://farm6.static.flickr.com/5030/5671166288_fbaae05182.jpghttp://farm6.static.flickr.com/5184/5671167042_13bc914591.jpghttp://farm6.static.flickr.com/5222/5670597937_79f81cc7f4.jpghttp://farm6.static.flickr.com/5305/5671167410_efdd7769d0.jpghttp://farm6.static.flickr.com/5266/5671167158_36d99f2278.jpg
>
> Have a great weekend everyone!
>
> Chris
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TOPIC: Wizard of OZ Woz - I hope not.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/a057387e4d170b7f?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:32 am
From: Pinlover
After watching the Jersey Jack pinball Video on youtube that was
approx 45mins, Jack mentioned about
setting up the factory not the same as Stern with the ladies doing
there wiring work on a board, as
has been done in the past 50 years.
Now this had me thinking, boy i hope it's not a complete circuit
board under the playfield!
this would be a real pain in the (_*_) to repair etc.
So hopefully the wire will still be there. :)
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:48 am
From: Retrogameconnection
On May 8, 4:32 pm, Pinlover <dee.l...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> After watching the Jersey Jack pinball Video on youtube that was
> approx 45mins, Jack mentioned about
> setting up the factory not the same as Stern with the ladies doing
> there wiring work on a board, as
> has been done in the past 50 years.
>
> Now this had me thinking, boy i hope it's not a complete circuit
> board under the playfield!
> this would be a real pain in the (_*_) to repair etc.
>
> So hopefully the wire will still be there. :)
Rumour has it that the large wiring harnesses are being replaced with
a CAN-Bus system. (Controller Area Network).
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:49 am
From: Chris
I believe that JJ was referring to the "passing down" assembly line
structure when a game is manufactured.
I would think that it would cost twice as much to manufacture a
pinball machine as a complete circuit.
Twice as expensive to repair as well....
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TOPIC: Riverboat Gambler nudity
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/7ccdb0761de11311?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:37 am
From: Chris
The original artwork for Riverboat Gambler was a lot more
controversial and had to be changed.
Check out the original outfit and the "working girl" in the far left
background:
http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=1966&picno=46262
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TOPIC: Cold Hard Bitch EM.... Where can I find one?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/e39098af65bb1d08?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:38 am
From: Multiball
On Apr 10, 8:16 am, PinballCharliefromNY <pinballcharli...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> Hi all: Check out this video by Jet...... Pretty
> neat!http://youtu.be/gGzmLl73TZ8
Thanks for posting. I'm surprised I've never seen that video since I
thought the disc was great.
Talk about backglass animation! Very cool.
~ Multiball!
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TOPIC: Auto Plunger Problems POTC
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/1d23666752fa5d34?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:43 am
From: Steve G
On May 7, 5:14 pm, Juan_Fingers <lewbe...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I had a similar thing happen to me on Indy 4. Replace the outer coil
> spring on the shooter housing. Over time the spring becomes
> compressed and the ball is farther up in the shooter lane making it
> hard for the auto shooter to make good contact. Just my guess.
> http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=1834&parent=0
>
> Good luck with your fix.
> Lewis
>
> On May 7, 2:36 pm, Rob T <rob...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
> > When the auto plunger tries to send a ball into play on my POTC, it
> > usually will not make it past the one-way gate. Not only that, but the
> > ball will also occasionally jump over the left side of the ramp either
> > directly onto the playfield, or into the outlane.
>
> > When it first started doing this I looked and saw that the plastic
> > piece was broken on the auto plunger rod, so I replaced it with
> > this:http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=657&parent=0
>
> > Got it hooked up fine, and the first 5-7 balls hit into play by the
> > auto plunger worked fine, then it started doing what I described above
> > (it's as though I didn't replace the broken part).
>
> > The ball goes into play fine when I use the manual plunger. I have
> > looked for anything in the balls path and don't see anything. The two
> > metal prongs that the plunger uses to put the ball into play appear to
> > be contacting the ball evenly.
>
> > There appears to be no real way to adjust this, but even if there was,
> > I can't tell what is causing the ball to come out so erratically. I
> > would say less than 50% of the time the ball will be put into play
> > correctly.
>
> > Any ideas?
>
> > --
> > Rob T
> > This USENET post sent from http://rgparchive.com
I'd try Juan's idea first by going into coil test pulling the plunger
back by hand to get the tip out of the way. Now press the start button
to fire the autolaunch coil. If after several tests it seems fine you
may need the outer spring. Also make sure the shooter tip isn't
touching either side of the forks which could cause any drag. Also
could take off the apron and make sure the coil bracket hasn't broken
or loosened from the playfield. With apron off and playfield lowered
back into position you should be able to use coil test and see what
the issue is.
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TOPIC: Coil Problems with BH
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/c86434fa1711189a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:48 am
From: "Gott Lieb?"
All of these coils are +38VDC, and get power through a NC switch on
the tilt relay and a NO switch on the game over relay. Check both of
these relay switch stacks for misadjusted / fouled switches.
Jim
On May 8, 2:27 am, vipe155 <v...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I have an odd issue that just came up with my Black Hole machine. I
> played several games on it tonight, and everything worked great and
> has worked for awhile now. Well, now all the upper pf pop bumpers (4
> of them) and the two upper pf slingshots don't fire. All other
> switches, lower playfield pops, etc. work, just not those 6 things.
>
> I don't have a manual/schematic for this game, but each of these items
> has it's own fuse so obviously it's not something that simple. The
> solenoid F4 fuse was good as well. I'm not sure what ties just these
> mentioned things together that none of them now work.
>
> Also, oddly enough, about 1 in 10 times I roll a ball into one of the
> pops, it while fire that one time. Besides that, they are dead.
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TOPIC: WPC-95 Playfield with strange issue...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/f5e16cbfb6d8384c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:48 am
From: Betelgeuse
On May 7, 6:15 pm, "seymour.shabow" <seymour.sha...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Betelgeuse wrote:
> > On May 7, 6:00 pm, "seymour.shabow" <seymour.sha...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Betelgeuse wrote:
> >>> This was the first winter that I used a room at the back of my
> >>> basement for several pins. The room is dry and heated, but tends to
> >>> get colder than the rest of the basement because it's not well
> >>> insulated. I live in PA. Anyways, I was cleaning up my games the
> >>> other day and noticed that one of the games had barely visible
> >>> vertical lines (about .8mm apart) running through the *entire*
> >>> playfield. They seem to be superficial and are very even and
> >>> parallel. I can't be sure if it was like that before, but I had never
> >>> noticed it. The other games in the room all looked fine. Even the
> >>> one backglass seemed unaffected. Could this be caused by the colder
> >>> temps? I wouldn't think it get's colder than maybe 45 degrees ever in
> >>> that room. Has anyone seen this before?
> >> Yup, that's what's meant by the term 'planking'.
>
> >> A combination of the cold and low humidity probably was the cause of yours.
>
> > That was my first thought, but I hadn't seen planking like this.
> > Everything I had read said it was safe to keep games in these types of
> > temps, with the backglass being the chief concern. Could the
> > playfield really be more fragile than a backglass? :(
>
> It really depends on the moisture content, and how quickly it changes.
So, what can I do to prevent this type of damage? A humidifier? I
really don't know that the humidity in the room is that different from
the rest of the basement, it's an open entrance way to the room from
the main game room. After reading lots of posts about guys keeping
their games in below-freezing storage for years with no ill effect, I
have to wonder if they looked closely at their playfields. I mean,
you really have to squint and look at the right angle to see the
'damage', but this game was never even subjected to freezing
temperatures or quick temp fluctuations.
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TOPIC: Kingsport Auction Results 5-7-11
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/abcd0482e5693e7f?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:49 am
From: Big Bob
On May 7, 7:50 pm, "BUYB...@xxxxxxx" <BUYB...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> On May 7, 3:38 pm, Rick Swanson <rns...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Here are the hammer prices from the May 7, 2011 Kingsport, Tennessee
> > auction:
>
> > Rocky & Bullwinkle - 525
> > Getaway - 650
> > Lord of the Rings - 2600
> > Stargate - 650
> > Police Force - 500
> > Flash - 375
> > Hulk - 450
> > Eight Ball Champ - 400
> > Shaq - 450
> > Viper - 750
> > Space Shuttle - 300
> > Panthera - 75
> > Hot Hand - 300
> > Jokerz - 475
> > Circus Voltaire - 3200
> > Sharkey's Shootout - 750
> > No Good Gophers - 1075
> > Viper - 925
> > No Good Gophers - 1075
> > High Rollers Casino - 800
> > Ripley's Believe It Or Not - 1600
> > Roller Coaster Tycoon - 1525
> > Royal Rumble - 825
> > NASCAR - 1650
> > World Cup Soccer 94 - 925
> > Wipeout - 550
> > Mario Andretti - 525
> > Strikes & Spares - 400
> > Grand Prix - 175
> > Star Wars (DE) - 1800
> > Mousin Around - 525
> > Fish Tales - 1025
> > Striker Xtreme - 1050
> > Indiana Jones (WMS) - 3000
> > The Addams Family - 3200
> > Congo - 900
> > Sorcerer - 575
>
> > Comments: The IJ and TAF were represented as having been HUO for the
> > past 10 years. Both were in nice shape. The CV had display board
> > issues (garbled dots and rolling black band) and sound issues (no
> > sound other than startup bong). Add 10% Buyer's Premium and 9.75%
> > Sales Tax.
>
> > Rick Swanson
>
> thats why i won,t take pins to the auctions anymore prices are below
> my cost on most r/b 525 ngg 1025 great deals- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Both weere rough and has issues so priced accordingly. R/B probably a
parts machine and the NGG missing parts and insert damage.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:00 am
From: shlockdoc
On May 7, 3:38 pm, Rick Swanson <rns...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Here are the hammer prices from the May 7, 2011 Kingsport, Tennessee
> auction:
>
> Rocky & Bullwinkle - 525
> Getaway - 650
> Lord of the Rings - 2600
> Stargate - 650
> Police Force - 500
> Flash - 375
> Hulk - 450
> Eight Ball Champ - 400
> Shaq - 450
> Viper - 750
> Space Shuttle - 300
> Panthera - 75
> Hot Hand - 300
> Jokerz - 475
> Circus Voltaire - 3200
> Sharkey's Shootout - 750
> No Good Gophers - 1075
> Viper - 925
> No Good Gophers - 1075
> High Rollers Casino - 800
> Ripley's Believe It Or Not - 1600
> Roller Coaster Tycoon - 1525
> Royal Rumble - 825
> NASCAR - 1650
> World Cup Soccer 94 - 925
> Wipeout - 550
> Mario Andretti - 525
> Strikes & Spares - 400
> Grand Prix - 175
> Star Wars (DE) - 1800
> Mousin Around - 525
> Fish Tales - 1025
> Striker Xtreme - 1050
> Indiana Jones (WMS) - 3000
> The Addams Family - 3200
> Congo - 900
> Sorcerer - 575
>
> Comments: The IJ and TAF were represented as having been HUO for the
> past 10 years. Both were in nice shape. The CV had display board
> issues (garbled dots and rolling black band) and sound issues (no
> sound other than startup bong). Add 10% Buyer's Premium and 9.75%
> Sales Tax.
>
> Rick Swanson
9.75% tax - wow is this Zimbabwe? I thought NYC at 8 1/2% was insane.
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TOPIC: Tech Advice Needed: Maverick Code
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/355fa88f2f72350d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:53 am
From: joobie
There is a roll under opto switch right before it enters the wheel.
Replace/repair/adjust that and your problems should be over :)
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TOPIC: TECH: A084-91864 "Sounds Deluxe" schematic
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/5a2be8151d8761dc?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:11 am
From: "seymour.shabow"
TheKorn@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Does anyone have a readable copy of the A084-91864 "Sounds Deluxe"
> schematic?
>
> I've downloaded a couple off of IPDB, but they're all so badly scanned
> in that resistors almost look like straight wires.
>
> If anyone can point me in the right direction (or send me a copy), I'd
> be quite thankful.
>
> Thanks!
That the cheap squeak? I have a good scan of that (and the entire bally
Lady Luck manual, but they're huge)
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Today's topics:
* Official TRON LE details - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/5135ab7201fd288d?hl=en
* Bally Lost World BG - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/29c85f43048c1ae6?hl=en
* Is this a good deal? I'm really tempted to buy it - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/1cc8d205e67f8ef6?hl=en
* FS: Collector Quality Addams Family in Colorado Springs - 4 messages, 3
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/c4f0e2619a164fe8?hl=en
* FS Bally Star Trek HUO? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/cb8b123880f9ccc2?hl=en
* Pittsburgh to Allentown Show - Need a machine hauled? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/9ada9ed478b5e82e?hl=en
* Help! Sterns are growing on me - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/78c0645ce5764e65?hl=en
* FS: Scared Stiff pf nos - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/ab9281fa112b35be?hl=en
* Possible WTT: Wheel of Fortune (west Michigan) - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/52fa40f1a18dce5b?hl=en
* tech: sttng knocker connection? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/0f947187fcbcbaef?hl=en
* Pinball Quiz question: Name the pinball machine at the Vatican... - 2
messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/808675fc411c54f7?hl=en
* Bally Atlantis flipper post adjustment? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/251ae06bee3440c1?hl=en
* Coil Problems with BH - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/c86434fa1711189a?hl=en
* Speical Force sometimes won't kick out another ball after locking one. - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/54748548d2a4388c?hl=en
* Free to good Home - 2 flipperless pinball games - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/145f1da90563d05a?hl=en
* Pop-A-Card question - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/173ddbfb0800542e?hl=en
* TECH: A084-91864 "Sounds Deluxe" schematic - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/5a2be8151d8761dc?hl=en
* The CAT attacked Party Zone! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/ab83f3f57ffe422d?hl=en
* FS 2005 Stern Sopranos - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/bde3a12cae3c50c7?hl=en
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TOPIC: Official TRON LE details
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/5135ab7201fd288d?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 5:22 am
From: TheKorn
pinghetto <millardb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
news:95e16a41-80c4-4f06-836c-4df9faaf7082@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
> Hey, Jedi. Sorry to react to your post that way. Was not intended that
> way.
You forgot to mark that as your opinion. :)))
--
Have a home video that's trapped on your camera? Want to share it on the
web or on DVD?
http://www.webwidevideo.com/
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 5:31 am
From: underlord
On May 8, 8:22 am, TheKorn <TheK...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> pinghetto <milla...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
> innews:95e16a41-80c4-4f06-836c-4df9faaf7082@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
>
> > Hey, Jedi. Sorry to react to your post that way. Was not intended that
> > way.
>
> You forgot to mark that as your opinion. :)))
>
> --
> Have a home video that's trapped on your camera? Want to share it on the
> web or on DVD?
>
> http://www.webwidevideo.com/
Hey Korn, don't you have some BALLS to test? :D
Troublemaker....
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TOPIC: Bally Lost World BG
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/29c85f43048c1ae6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 5:26 am
From: Sparkup
On May 8, 10:00 pm, Gav <gavt...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 5/8/2011 4:08 PM, Sparkup wrote:> On May 8, 2:29 pm,
> Gav<gavt...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> I am looking for a reasonable backglass for a Bally Lost World.
>
> >> A scan of this would be great, please help as my machine looks
> >> terrible with just the glass and no paint left !!
>
> >> TIA
>
> >> Gav in OZ
>
> > Maybe ;)
>
> Maybe What ?
Maybe check your email for the answer!
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TOPIC: Is this a good deal? I'm really tempted to buy it
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/1cc8d205e67f8ef6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 5:27 am
From: PinFlipper
On May 7, 11:59 pm, Haiku Automation <haiku.automat...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> On May 5, 10:52 am, "Magic Mike" <spiderma...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > > You should have contacted the seller before posting on here..
>
> > Wouldn't surprise me if *he* was actually the seller.
>
> > Mike
>
> Likely was the seller, and created the magically reverse upside-down
> inside-out buyer disorder reaction in RGPs. Its gone already.
i have a pinbot or comet for $900 each near boston for sale
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TOPIC: FS: Collector Quality Addams Family in Colorado Springs
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/c4f0e2619a164fe8?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 5:28 am
From: underlord
On May 7, 10:47 pm, Haiku Automation <haiku.automat...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> On May 7, 4:08 pm, Tilt <jer.willi...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Curt is good people and a good communicator. Deal with confidence.
> > This game is the cleanest TAF you're likely to ever come across.
> > SHOWTIME!
>
> Why does the fella have a 3/5 start rating if he is 'good people'?
That's right, study the stars...I have two out of five based on my
history here, so that must make me a serial killer. I wonder how evil
one star criminals are??? Whaaa--haaa-haaa!
I never liked the star system...too easy for one person to abuse it
because they were having a bad Karma or something.
Glad it's gone, disappointed it stuck onto the original profiles
though. Whatever, judge as you wish I guess...
Now excuse me, I have some Mother's Day massacre-ing (?) to
accomplish; where is my axe again? :D.......
--Bludgeoning Rick.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 5:29 am
From: underlord
On May 8, 8:17 am, Bryan Kelly <bskel...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Star ratings don't mean sh*t.
>
> Out of 5 stars, I'd rate Curt a 10.
>
> Bryan (CARGPB 14)http://usergallery.myhomegameroom.com/gallery/bspins
>
> On May 7, 9:47 pm, Haiku Automation <haiku.automat...@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 7, 4:08 pm, Tilt <jer.willi...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > > Curt is good people and a good communicator. Deal with confidence.
> > > This game is the cleanest TAF you're likely to ever come across.
> > > SHOWTIME!
>
> > Why does the fella have a 3/5 start rating if he is 'good people'?
I would give you one star Bryan for that comment, if I could...so I
will berate you impotently from my computer desk. TAKE THAT!!
--Rick.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 5:43 am
From: Bryan Kelly
Thanks, AH. Now my stellar 3 star rating is dragged even further into
the mud. ;-)
Bryan (CARGPB 14)
http://usergallery.myhomegameroom.com/gallery/bspins
On May 8, 7:29 am, underlord <rburn...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I would give you one star Bryan for that comment, if I could...so I
> will berate you impotently from my computer desk. TAKE THAT!!
>
> --Rick.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 5:56 am
From: "Mr. 68"
For a long while I had a stalker here on RGP that would rate every
single post I made with a single star. Can you imagine the small,
miserable life some people lead?
FYI: Drain Man is a solid citizen in the pinball community. Good luck
with the sale, Curt.
Kim - CARGPB #36
http://www.WrongCrowdProductions.com/
Over 10 Billion sold – We are the Google of Glare Guards
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TOPIC: FS Bally Star Trek HUO?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/cb8b123880f9ccc2?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 5:29 am
From: Bill
Wow nice game and wish I saw this sooner
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TOPIC: Pittsburgh to Allentown Show - Need a machine hauled?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/9ada9ed478b5e82e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 5:32 am
From: Bill
I may be up for 1 day trip too. I'm planning on going too but don't
want to stay till Sunday.
Bill in Ceveland
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TOPIC: Help! Sterns are growing on me
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/78c0645ce5764e65?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 5:37 am
From: MrTilt
On May 7, 3:06 pm, AFM_TZ <jduri...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I am also plagued. My row of B/W pins are gone and replaced by Sterns.
> No regrets - like the ones i have, and I am expectingTronto fit in
> nicely (TRON!!!). I have alot more fun with Stern Pins.
>
> Need to figure out how i am going to change my name here though.
Same here sold MM,MB,TZ,AFM and TOTAN as I enjoy playing my NIB Sterns
POTC,SM,LOTR LE, AVATAR LE and TSPP (TRON LE soon)
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TOPIC: FS: Scared Stiff pf nos
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/ab9281fa112b35be?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 5:44 am
From: 2manypins
On May 8, 12:50 am, kruzman <kruz...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> I had this listed on ebay as a but it now or make offer. I have
> realized that ebay is so strange, and pf's sell for way more money in
> the auction format. I just hate selling them that way, but I am going
> to have to.
> One of the reasons my work takes so long, is I have to apply 3 or 4
> coats of paint on touch ups. This is the only way I have found to make
> it so there are no brush strokes, and you can not tell it has been
> touched up.
> All of the wpc95 pf's have a lot of art printed over the insert, when
> the older pf's are mostly script on the insert. so I went thru all of
> the inserts to paint the crack between the wood and plastic, so it
> looks like it was printed on a solid peice of material.
> Also the area in front of the trunk assembly looks bad, even on a nos
> pf. You can always see thru the paint. Also the eyeball insert,
> directly to the right of the crate, always has a line or crack.
> So I am just going to be up front and list this as an auction, but my
> reserve will be 1700. I paid a grand for the pf, and put a lot of work
> in to it before the clear which would cost 350. BTW, the price of gas
> is effecting the price of clear. Yes I use a very good creamic infused
> clear, but it cost 230 a gal with hardener. Crap is getting expensive.
> Also if the pf is bought thru the rpg crowd, I will guarantee it. If
> you get it and it dosent meet your expectations, send it back, and you
> are only out the shipping. I will even buy the crate back.
> I guess I wont list it till sun, late afternoon so it ends at a good
> time. But it wont sell for less than 1700, and you can but it now for
> that.
>
> Lastly, let me know if there are any nos pf's that you are looking
> for. I am not the wallmart of pf's, because I collect them for my own
> enjoyment, but I like to help out folks that are doing a serious high
> end restoration. I have about 30 nos and retored, and 150 used cores.
> I am not taking in any resstorations for a couple more months, to get
> caught up on the ones people have been patiently waiting for
>
> Here is the link to my pics of the nos SS. If you need a special thing
> shot, just let me know. thanks, ron k
I do not see the link.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:11 am
From: Eric
On May 8, 12:50 am, kruzman <kruz...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> I had this listed on ebay as a but it now or make offer. I have
> realized that ebay is so strange, and pf's sell for way more money in
> the auction format. I just hate selling them that way, but I am going
> to have to.
> One of the reasons my work takes so long, is I have to apply 3 or 4
> coats of paint on touch ups. This is the only way I have found to make
> it so there are no brush strokes, and you can not tell it has been
> touched up.
> All of the wpc95 pf's have a lot of art printed over the insert, when
> the older pf's are mostly script on the insert. so I went thru all of
> the inserts to paint the crack between the wood and plastic, so it
> looks like it was printed on a solid peice of material.
> Also the area in front of the trunk assembly looks bad, even on a nos
> pf. You can always see thru the paint. Also the eyeball insert,
> directly to the right of the crate, always has a line or crack.
> So I am just going to be up front and list this as an auction, but my
> reserve will be 1700. I paid a grand for the pf, and put a lot of work
> in to it before the clear which would cost 350. BTW, the price of gas
> is effecting the price of clear. Yes I use a very good creamic infused
> clear, but it cost 230 a gal with hardener. Crap is getting expensive.
> Also if the pf is bought thru the rpg crowd, I will guarantee it. If
> you get it and it dosent meet your expectations, send it back, and you
> are only out the shipping. I will even buy the crate back.
> I guess I wont list it till sun, late afternoon so it ends at a good
> time. But it wont sell for less than 1700, and you can but it now for
> that.
>
> Lastly, let me know if there are any nos pf's that you are looking
> for. I am not the wallmart of pf's, because I collect them for my own
> enjoyment, but I like to help out folks that are doing a serious high
> end restoration. I have about 30 nos and retored, and 150 used cores.
> I am not taking in any resstorations for a couple more months, to get
> caught up on the ones people have been patiently waiting for
>
> Here is the link to my pics of the nos SS. If you need a special thing
> shot, just let me know. thanks, ron k
Don't know if the pictures will do justice to the way this playfield
looks in person. It has significant wow factor. While I didn't study
every inch of it, you really cannot tell there are inserts at all and
the clear coat is like glass - very nice work.
Eric
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TOPIC: Possible WTT: Wheel of Fortune (west Michigan)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/52fa40f1a18dce5b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 5:47 am
From: tbmi
On May 7, 11:33 am, tbmi <thomas_r_...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On May 7, 9:04 am, TomN <mt1...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 4, 4:04 pm, tbmi <thomas_r_...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > > I thought I'd try this before I haul it to the basement. I have a
> > > very nice WoF that I recently picked up after wanting one for a
> > > while. Sadly, I'm not enjoying it nearly as much as I thought I would
> > > (plus I suck at it :) Anyways, I am looking to trade it towards
> > > something different. The WoF looks and plays great and comes with the
> > > original manual, some goody bag items (plastics and decals) and the
> > > tournament topper. I'm looking for something as local to west
> > > Michigan (I'm in Holland) as possible since gas is through the roof.
>
> > > Let me know if you are interested and what you have. If nothing pans
> > > out, I will still get some enjoyment out of the WoF.
>
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tom
> > > thomas_r_bos at hotmail dot com
>
> > Hi Tom
>
> > I'm in SE Michigan near Toledo so I'm not sure if that's a little far,
> > but I might be interested. Do you have a short list of machines are
> > you looking for? I had a chance to play a WoF at the Michigan Expo
> > recently and really enjoyed it.
>
> > Let me know
>
> > Tom
>
> I would really like a DW. Maybe Fishtales or something 90s.
>
> Tom- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I have decided to just hang onto the WoF and will hopefully be moving
it downstairs this week. Thanks for all of the offers.
Tom
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TOPIC: tech: sttng knocker connection?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/0f947187fcbcbaef?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 5:53 am
From: Kerry Imming
On May 8, 4:01 am, flashbk13 <flashb...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> hi all,
> I just received my knocker assy. from action pinball (thanks guys,
> very fast shipping!), but I have no idea where to plug it in? Mine was
> completely gone, including the wiring to attach it to. I see the screw
> holes in the upper left side of the head, but the connector on the
> assy. is very short. Where does it go? I did find one pic in google
> showing it connects to a cable that I don't have, so where does this
> other end (female) connector connect to? A good photo with
> explaination would be great as I will have to make (or buy) that cable
> and need to know where( which board and position) to connect it to.
> Thank you, Rick.
Check the manual, Adjustment section A.3 #21. There was an option to
put a coin meter in place of the knocker. If you have a coin meter in
the cabinet you'll have to reroute the wires up to the knocker.
The coil table shows what wires you're looking for: J107-3 and J130-8
(violet-black)
Oh, and the coil you have is correct in that it has a pair of short
pigtails on it.
- Kerry
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TOPIC: Pinball Quiz question: Name the pinball machine at the Vatican...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/808675fc411c54f7?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 5:54 am
From: Mike in Maryland
In the late 1980's, there was a pinball machine above St. Peter's
sacristy for enrolled Vatican altar boys....name that machine....
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:08 am
From: William Brower
On May 8, 8:54 am, Mike in Maryland <pinbal...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> In the late 1980's, there was a pinball machine above St. Peter's
> sacristy for enrolled Vatican altar boys....name that machine....
http://www.ipdb.org/search.pl?any=boys&search=Search+Database&searchtype=quick#3018
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TOPIC: Bally Atlantis flipper post adjustment?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/251ae06bee3440c1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:03 am
From: bogart
I'm trying to help out a friend in another state with his Bally
Atlantis. The pop-up post between the flippers doesn't sit flush with
the playfield, it sticks up and re-directs the ball. I can't remember
adjusting one of these before so I can't explain to him how to do it.
Can anybody give me an answer that a novice could follow?
Thanks,
bogart
pinrestore.com
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TOPIC: Coil Problems with BH
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/c86434fa1711189a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:03 am
From: Joseph Vaccaro
On May 8, 1:27 am, vipe155 <v...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I have an odd issue that just came up with my Black Hole machine. I
> played several games on it tonight, and everything worked great and
> has worked for awhile now. Well, now all the upper pf pop bumpers (4
> of them) and the two upper pf slingshots don't fire. All other
> switches, lower playfield pops, etc. work, just not those 6 things.
>
> I don't have a manual/schematic for this game, but each of these items
> has it's own fuse so obviously it's not something that simple. The
> solenoid F4 fuse was good as well. I'm not sure what ties just these
> mentioned things together that none of them now work.
>
> Also, oddly enough, about 1 in 10 times I roll a ball into one of the
> pops, it while fire that one time. Besides that, they are dead.
I'm no tech but this could be an issue with a loose wiring
connection. The daisy chained ground wire connection could have come
loose somewhere and all your pop bumpers and slingshots that are in
line with that are without ground and will not operate. Something to
check until a tech responds..... good luck
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TOPIC: Speical Force sometimes won't kick out another ball after locking one.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/54748548d2a4388c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:04 am
From: CEG
On May 7, 4:47 pm, barakandl <baraka...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On May 7, 4:24 pm,CEG<corv...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I've searched the messages and really couldn't find an answer.
>
> > After locking the first or second ball it doesn't always kick out
> > another ball.
>
> > Things I've done:
>
> > Replaced the 3 trough switches from a used PF..
> > Switches pass the tests in the diag menu. (old switches passed too)
> > If I remove all of the balls all switches show open.
> > Putting the balls back in shows only the 3 trough switches closed
> > (left , middle, right outhole)
> > I played a game (have apron removed as well so I can what the trough
> > is doing) until it doesn't kick out a ball. I go into the switch test
> > and it shows one locked, and the other two in the trough.
> > If I manually flick a trough switch (doesn't matter which one) it'll
> > sometimes give kick out the ball.. Otherwise it'll play the tune like
> > it's locked, but won't kick the ball out.
> > MPU was sent out a couple of years ago and it tested fine. (the
> > machine has always had this problem since I've had it, but it happens
> > more often now)
>
> > Should I repin the connector associated with the trough on the MPU???
>
> > Chas
>
> There are three switch in the lock area of special force. I bet your
> issue is up there and not in the trough. Make sure each one is
> working properly and the balls stacking up there correctly in the lock
> area. You gotta take both ramps and the forest off to service them
> from the top side which is a pain. You can get to them bottom side
> of the field but you can not tell how the balls are resting.- Hide quoted
> text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Looks like that was the problem.. I fired her up this morning and I
didn't get through the first game. As soon as I locked the first ball
it wouldn't kick out another ball. I look through the ramp and the
middle switch is rubbing against the PF and it's still in the down
position.. I give it a little bend to center the switch and so far
(crosses fingers) it hasn't messed up yet since, but I've only played
about 4 games since.
Thanks for the tip!
Chas
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TOPIC: Free to good Home - 2 flipperless pinball games
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/145f1da90563d05a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:04 am
From: "Gameroom-Classics.com"
sounds like these are bingos?
On May 7, 10:20 am, "Dave F" <dafr...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I have 2 flipperless single ball pinball games I picked up in an auction for
> next to nothing a few years ago. Due to some family health issues they are
> just taking up space and I do not have time to restore them.
>
> Info on games
>
> 1960 Bally Tropic Queens - flipperless wood rail. Non working but the
> machines are intact with all parts in good shape. Cabinet in good condition,
> backglass in great condition
> 1962 Bally Waikiki Beach - same machine as Tropic Queens just a different
> backglass. Cabinet is okay, missing coin door, backglass in great condition.
> Also non working
>
> No obvious damage to either machine although one leg on one of the machines
> will not tighten down to the cabinet
>
> Free to anyone willing to come get.
> I live in Crestwood, KY - outside of Louisville
>
> I will send pictures or more info upon request
>
> email - davidfroehl...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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TOPIC: Pop-A-Card question
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/173ddbfb0800542e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:07 am
From: Todd Newman
On May 8, 8:11 am, Rick Swanson <rns...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I have my PAC set on "1 coin 2 plays" and when you drop a dime through
> the coin mechs the credit light illuminates on the apron. However, if
> I set the game on "1 coin 1 play" and drop multiple dimes through the
> coin mechs the credit light does not come on. Stated otherwise, you
> get no credit for putting multiple coins through. Is that the way it
> is supposed to be? Because the game is an add-a-ball game it doesn't
> have a credit wheel so maybe it has no way of keeping track of someone
> putting multiple coins through the mechs.
>
> Rick Swanson
> cargpb6
I'd just go up to the counter and ask for a refund. But, IIRC, there
is a credit hold relay of some sort that kept track of the "2 credits,
1 coin" scenerio. This is what turns the light on. There is nothing
else. Mine was on free play, and I closed the switch in this stack
to keep it coined up all the time.
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TOPIC: TECH: A084-91864 "Sounds Deluxe" schematic
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/5a2be8151d8761dc?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:12 am
From: "Coin-Op Cauldron (Clive)"
On May 7, 7:00 pm, "TheK...@xxxxxxxxxxx" <TheK...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Does anyone have a readable copy of the A084-91864 "Sounds Deluxe"
> schematic?
>
> I've downloaded a couple off of IPDB, but they're all so badly scanned
> in that resistors almost look like straight wires.
>
> If anyone can point me in the right direction (or send me a copy), I'd
> be quite thankful.
>
> Thanks!
Just a quick note if you are repairing that Sounds Deluxe board; --
the PAL has the security bit set and therefore the fuse map cannot be
read out of the IC. If the PAL is faulty, you'll need to find a donor
PAL or another board.
Clive
Profesional circuit board repairs...
www.coinopcauldron.com
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TOPIC: The CAT attacked Party Zone!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/ab83f3f57ffe422d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:14 am
From: Steve G
On May 8, 12:53 am, Xamindar <junkxamin...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I spent most of the day helping a friend fix his Party Zone. It was all
> working great but we left the glass off to help some touch ups dry. His
> evil cat decided to jump up on the head and then down onto the open
> playfield right on the right ramp. Broke the thing in half.
>
> Does anyone know where we can buy a new right plastic ramp?
If you skin the cat and then use some resin with the cat pelt it would
make a great mending material to repair the ramp. ;-)
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TOPIC: FS 2005 Stern Sopranos
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/bde3a12cae3c50c7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 6:16 am
From: YenningComity
On May 7, 8:29 pm, YenningComity <yenningcom...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Selling my Sopranos. Less than 30 plays since I shopped out the
> machine. Cabinet has no flipper button wear. Goody bag still sealed.
> Pictures upon request.
>
> Cash price is 3400
>
> Open to trades on other machines.
>
> Machine is located in Indianapolis Indiana.
Morning Bump
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Today's topics:
* TECH: A084-91864 "Sounds Deluxe" schematic - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/5a2be8151d8761dc?hl=en
* WPC-95 Playfield with strange issue... - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/f5e16cbfb6d8384c?hl=en
* Pinball Quiz question: Name the pinball machine at the Vatican... - 3
messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/808675fc411c54f7?hl=en
* Wizard of OZ Woz - I hope not. - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/a057387e4d170b7f?hl=en
* Pittsburgh to Allentown Show - Need a machine hauled? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/9ada9ed478b5e82e?hl=en
* Looking for JP plastic scan - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/b9e66295efa5415c?hl=en
* Bally Atlantis flipper post adjustment? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/251ae06bee3440c1?hl=en
* Free to good Home - 2 flipperless pinball games - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/145f1da90563d05a?hl=en
* FS: Scared Stiff pf nos - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/ab9281fa112b35be?hl=en
* Tech: Dr Who owners .. please help - Survey - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/bfedef83cba24ce8?hl=en
* Kingsport Auction Results 5-7-11 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/abcd0482e5693e7f?hl=en
* The CAT attacked Party Zone! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/ab83f3f57ffe422d?hl=en
* FS: Taxi Marylin Prototype - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/cfac6b9889fa0595?hl=en
* FS: New Hakko FM-202 Soldering Kit - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/e5f74cea4fe4483c?hl=en
* NOS pf's available - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/45b17887be3ee4a2?hl=en
* Need help, getaway Accelerator Magnet 1 not working.. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/d58624e9faa6adc3?hl=en
* WTB: Kings & Queens 1965 GTB - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/e2cd4975ab47e393?hl=en
* Stern Lightning A2J1 wiring question - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/2832c6167fec5703?hl=en
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TOPIC: TECH: A084-91864 "Sounds Deluxe" schematic
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/5a2be8151d8761dc?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:11 am
From: "seymour.shabow"
TheKorn@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Does anyone have a readable copy of the A084-91864 "Sounds Deluxe"
> schematic?
>
> I've downloaded a couple off of IPDB, but they're all so badly scanned
> in that resistors almost look like straight wires.
>
> If anyone can point me in the right direction (or send me a copy), I'd
> be quite thankful.
>
> Thanks!
That the cheap squeak? I have a good scan of that (and the entire bally
Lady Luck manual, but they're huge)
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TOPIC: WPC-95 Playfield with strange issue...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/f5e16cbfb6d8384c?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:14 am
From: "seymour.shabow"
Betelgeuse wrote:
>
> So, what can I do to prevent this type of damage? A humidifier? I
> really don't know that the humidity in the room is that different from
> the rest of the basement, it's an open entrance way to the room from
> the main game room. After reading lots of posts about guys keeping
> their games in below-freezing storage for years with no ill effect, I
> have to wonder if they looked closely at their playfields. I mean,
> you really have to squint and look at the right angle to see the
> 'damage', but this game was never even subjected to freezing
> temperatures or quick temp fluctuations.
You want the temperature and humidity to be as stable as possible. If
they are going to swing, you want them to swing as slowly as possible.
It depends on the topcoat on the PF too - the older thinner topcoats
breathe better vs. diamondplate's sealing.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:15 am
From: kmoore88
On May 8, 9:14 am, "seymour.shabow" <seymour.sha...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Betelgeuse wrote:
>
> > So, what can I do to prevent this type of damage? A humidifier? I
> > really don't know that the humidity in the room is that different from
> > the rest of the basement, it's an open entrance way to the room from
> > the main game room. After reading lots of posts about guys keeping
> > their games in below-freezing storage for years with no ill effect, I
> > have to wonder if they looked closely at their playfields. I mean,
> > you really have to squint and look at the right angle to see the
> > 'damage', but this game was never even subjected to freezing
> > temperatures or quick temp fluctuations.
>
> You want the temperature and humidity to be as stable as possible. If
> they are going to swing, you want them to swing as slowly as possible.
>
> It depends on the topcoat on the PF too - the older thinner topcoats
> breathe better vs. diamondplate's sealing.
>
>
A fiberglass or composite PF would address many issues that arise with
plywood
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:45 am
From: "seymour.shabow"
kmoore88 wrote:
> On May 8, 9:14 am, "seymour.shabow" <seymour.sha...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Betelgeuse wrote:
>>
>>> So, what can I do to prevent this type of damage? A humidifier? I
>>> really don't know that the humidity in the room is that different from
>>> the rest of the basement, it's an open entrance way to the room from
>>> the main game room. After reading lots of posts about guys keeping
>>> their games in below-freezing storage for years with no ill effect, I
>>> have to wonder if they looked closely at their playfields. I mean,
>>> you really have to squint and look at the right angle to see the
>>> 'damage', but this game was never even subjected to freezing
>>> temperatures or quick temp fluctuations.
>> You want the temperature and humidity to be as stable as possible. If
>> they are going to swing, you want them to swing as slowly as possible.
>>
>> It depends on the topcoat on the PF too - the older thinner topcoats
>> breathe better vs. diamondplate's sealing.
>>
>>
>
> A fiberglass or composite PF would address many issues that arise with
> plywood
Now, if they could just fix the problem of the mechs falling off that
type of pf.....
(Bally tried this back in the late 70s/early 80s, and while the artwork
and top side of the PF stayed pristine, the mechs have a tendency to
fall off.....)
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TOPIC: Pinball Quiz question: Name the pinball machine at the Vatican...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/808675fc411c54f7?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:11 am
From: SilverUnicorn
On May 8, 10:00 am, mike <wizb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On May 8, 6:58 am, Enzo <jackso...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > > > In the late 1980's, there was a pinball machine above St. Peter's
> > > > sacristy for enrolled Vatican altar boys....name that machine....
>
> > GTB Texas Ranger?
>
> > Enzo
>
> Was it Ding Dong? thank pin looks kinda pervy.
It was a one off called "Bad Touch"
C
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:18 am
From: "Lloyd Olson"
Devils Dare. LTG :)
"Mike in Maryland" <pinballem@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:2cab53a0-feed-4224-bb12-777e10961f40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> In the late 1980's, there was a pinball machine above St. Peter's
> sacristy for enrolled Vatican altar boys....name that machine....
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:48 am
From: "Mr. 68"
Don’t know but I have a game I keep muttering "Jesus Christ" at.
Kim - CARGPB #36
http://www.WrongCrowdProductions.com/
Over 10 Billion sold – We are the Google of Glare Guards
On May 8, 6:54 am, Mike in Maryland <pinbal...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> In the late 1980's, there was a pinball machine above St. Peter's
> sacristy for enrolled Vatican altar boys....name that machine....
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TOPIC: Wizard of OZ Woz - I hope not.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/a057387e4d170b7f?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:12 am
From: DJS
I thought the comment to mean they are not be doing as much of the
work/assembly in-house right away but rather might be subcontracting
out more things, thus the production line would not appear as huge and
extravagant, I'm sure a ton of stuff is already subcontracted out as
it would be at Stern and any other complicated product.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:48 am
From: Tom G
On May 8, 9:12 am, DJS <Souzamer...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I thought the comment to mean they are not be doing as much of the
> work/assembly in-house right away but rather might be subcontracting
> out more things, thus the production line would not appear as huge and
> extravagant, I'm sure a ton of stuff is already subcontracted out as
> it would be at Stern and any other complicated product.
I think you guys worry WAY TOO MUCH
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:49 am
From: Chris
Has CAN-bus been confirmed by Jersey Jack?
Give me wire all day any day as opposed to dealing with a bunch of
microcontrollers running on multiple ICs.
Being in networking for 20+ years, I can go ahead and tell you that
CAN-bus problems always have to be replaced…..not repaired!
Collectors are going to have a cash cow when (not if) they have to
replace one of the microprocessors that handle those controllers.
This is why you always end up paying out the ass when the CAN-bus in
your car fails.
Then again, I guess if you can afford to drop $7K on a pinball
machine, you don’t worry about stuff like this.
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TOPIC: Pittsburgh to Allentown Show - Need a machine hauled?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/9ada9ed478b5e82e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:14 am
From: Haiku Automation
On May 8, 6:32 am, Bill <b...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> I may be up for 1 day trip too. I'm planning on going too but don't
> want to stay till Sunday.
>
> Bill in Ceveland
Sadly I now have a full Saturday events set for of all things a
neighborhood pinball-fest on my machines. Maybe next year, I can hope.
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TOPIC: Looking for JP plastic scan
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/b9e66295efa5415c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:15 am
From: Bubba
Looking for a scan of the playfield plastic to the right of the upper
flipper. Has a dome flasher and a clear ball shield mounted to the
top. I have given up on finding the plastic and shield, and will try
to make my own.
Sebastian
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TOPIC: Bally Atlantis flipper post adjustment?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/251ae06bee3440c1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:16 am
From: "Gott Lieb?"
I will start by stating I've never had to do this before either.
Plus, I had to look it up in the manual to see if this was a WMS part
or Bally. It is in fact a WMS part. Anyhow, go to -
http://www.planetarypinball.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=PP&Screen=BOOK.
Then, click on the blue book. Search for "C-11819". It won't give
you the correct pages, but you can advance one page to 5-32 (pg 428 of
the online catalog) from the first search hit.
It looks like there are two nuts used to secure the post height.
Loosen the upper nut first, then the lower. Adjust the height, and
tighten each nut in reverse order.
It's great that PP has this info readily available, but what a PITA it
is to navigate. I had to look it up in the hard copy catalog, after
several unsuccessful search in the online catalog. In hindsight, It
would probably be easier just to d/l the Atlantis or Big Guns manual
from IPDB.
Jim
On May 8, 9:03 am, bogart <pinrest...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'm trying to help out a friend in another state with his Bally
> Atlantis. The pop-up post between the flippers doesn't sit flush with
> the playfield, it sticks up and re-directs the ball. I can't remember
> adjusting one of these before so I can't explain to him how to do it.
> Can anybody give me an answer that a novice could follow?
>
> Thanks,
> bogart
> pinrestore.com
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TOPIC: Free to good Home - 2 flipperless pinball games
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/145f1da90563d05a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:16 am
From: "Jim D. in TN"
On May 8, 9:04 am, "Gameroom-Classics.com" <robgallag...@gameroom-
classics.com> wrote:
> sounds like these are bingos?
Tropic Queens is a one ball game. It has kickers and pop bumpers. It
also came in 2 & 5 ball versions, replay & novelty. Bingo games
usually have neither and have Bingo cards on the backglasses.
See See http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=1271&picno=16962 for a
picture of the Queens games playfield.
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TOPIC: FS: Scared Stiff pf nos
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/ab9281fa112b35be?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:18 am
From: kruzman
On May 8, 9:11 am, Eric <espil...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On May 8, 12:50 am, kruzman <kruz...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I had this listed on ebay as a but it now or make offer. I have
> > realized that ebay is so strange, and pf's sell for way more money in
> > the auction format. I just hate selling them that way, but I am going
> > to have to.
> > One of the reasons my work takes so long, is I have to apply 3 or 4
> > coats of paint on touch ups. This is the only way I have found to make
> > it so there are no brush strokes, and you can not tell it has been
> > touched up.
> > All of the wpc95 pf's have a lot of art printed over the insert, when
> > the older pf's are mostly script on the insert. so I went thru all of
> > the inserts to paint the crack between the wood and plastic, so it
> > looks like it was printed on a solid peice of material.
> > Also the area in front of the trunk assembly looks bad, even on a nos
> > pf. You can always see thru the paint. Also the eyeball insert,
> > directly to the right of the crate, always has a line or crack.
> > So I am just going to be up front and list this as an auction, but my
> > reserve will be 1700. I paid a grand for the pf, and put a lot of work
> > in to it before the clear which would cost 350. BTW, the price of gas
> > is effecting the price of clear. Yes I use a very good creamic infused
> > clear, but it cost 230 a gal with hardener. Crap is getting expensive.
> > Also if the pf is bought thru the rpg crowd, I will guarantee it. If
> > you get it and it dosent meet your expectations, send it back, and you
> > are only out the shipping. I will even buy the crate back.
> > I guess I wont list it till sun, late afternoon so it ends at a good
> > time. But it wont sell for less than 1700, and you can but it now for
> > that.
>
> > Lastly, let me know if there are any nos pf's that you are looking
> > for. I am not the wallmart of pf's, because I collect them for my own
> > enjoyment, but I like to help out folks that are doing a serious high
> > end restoration. I have about 30 nos and retored, and 150 used cores.
> > I am not taking in any resstorations for a couple more months, to get
> > caught up on the ones people have been patiently waiting for
>
> > Here is the link to my pics of the nos SS. If you need a special thing
> > shot, just let me know. thanks, ron k
>
> Don't know if the pictures will do justice to the way this playfield
> looks in person. It has significant wow factor. While I didn't study
> every inch of it, you really cannot tell there are inserts at all and
> the clear coat is like glass - very nice work.
>
> Eric- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
oops, here is the link
http://s419.photobucket.com/albums/pp275/kruzman/MM%20flaws%20on%20new%20IPB%20latest%20run/nos%20scared%20stiff%20for%20sale/
People are asking if it is used because it required touch up. I have
never cleared one pf that didnt need touch up. Everyone of them has a
hairline crack arround the inserts, and most have some scraytches from
storage. This is new. NOS. I am open for offers of partial trades for
pf's games, cash, let me know. Also I am going to be at allentown.
Thanks, ron k
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TOPIC: Tech: Dr Who owners .. please help - Survey
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/bfedef83cba24ce8?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:22 am
From: faz
>
> PASS
>
> ;)
Sure...now it works....what about before???
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:45 am
From: "seymour.shabow"
faz wrote:
>> PASS
>>
>> ;)
>
> Sure...now it works....what about before???
FAIL x5, b4......
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TOPIC: Kingsport Auction Results 5-7-11
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/abcd0482e5693e7f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:22 am
From: "Jim D. in TN"
On May 8, 10:00 am, shlockdoc <mkl...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 9.75% tax - wow is this Zimbabwe? I thought NYC at 8 1/2% was insane.
But no city or state income tax in TN.
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TOPIC: The CAT attacked Party Zone!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/ab83f3f57ffe422d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:32 am
From: BC_Gambit
On May 8, 6:14 am, Steve G <iski...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On May 8, 12:53 am, Xamindar <junkxamin...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > I spent most of the day helping a friend fix his Party Zone. It was all
> > working great but we left the glass off to help some touch ups dry. His
> > evil cat decided to jump up on the head and then down onto the open
> > playfield right on the right ramp. Broke the thing in half.
>
> > Does anyone know where we can buy a new right plastic ramp?
>
> If you skin the cat and then use some resin with the cat pelt it would
> make a great mending material to repair the ramp. ;-)
This does not help now, but one of my few pin repair rules is "get the
cat(s) out of the room.
I have a magic orange cat who makes a bee line straight for any open
machine (arcade or pinball). Even with this rule in place, I have
found him trapped in games "I only opened for a minute".
My sympathies; I would not have expected a broken ramp. I usually am
paranoid about the cats going after the rubber (a member posted about
his $2000 pinball rubber once, due to the vet bills post feline
ingestion).
Good luck finding a replacement. If not I am sure you can jury rig
the current one into functionality, I just would not expect it to be
purty.
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TOPIC: FS: Taxi Marylin Prototype
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/cfac6b9889fa0595?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:35 am
From: GameRoomCollectibles
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150602442853&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
Can't really confirm nor disprove "Prototype" status, however it has 4
factory sticker "PROTO5" & "PROTO6" chips intact on 2 separate boards. I
really don't care but I suspect a few pinnuts might. Nice game nonetheless.
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TOPIC: FS: New Hakko FM-202 Soldering Kit
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/e5f74cea4fe4483c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:37 am
From: Wil
On May 7, 3:47 pm, Rob <rvh...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> On May 7, 1:06 pm, Wil <subdu...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 7, 9:10 am, "TheK...@xxxxxxxxxxx" <TheK...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > > On May 7, 6:59 am, Rob <rvh...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > > > Bought this and never used it. It was a demo model a salesman had
> > > > that was never used for soldering. The kit came in a nice airtight
> > > > Pelican case that is included. I paid alot more while would sell for
> > > > 300 including ground shipping in the US. I will send pics showing
> > > > that it works and is in "new condition" if you are seriously
> > > > interested. Otherwise they are on Ebay if you want to get an idea of
> > > > the soldering staion. Would also bring to Allenttown for 275....
>
> > > That model number refers to the heater; it can be used for through-
> > > hole, surface mount, and probably other stuff. Is there an iron
> > > included?
>
> > You going to allentown? no wai!
>
> I would bring it to Allentown, I will be there Saturday, maybe Friday
> for Pinfest 11.
>
> Rob
Sorry, meant TheKorn. I'd be surprised if he ventures that far east :)
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TOPIC: NOS pf's available
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/45b17887be3ee4a2?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:38 am
From: kruzman
A lot of people have been checking to see if I have this or that pf. I
have about 150 used cores that I am not going to list, and I cant put
in the cue right now to restore because I am over booked for about 2
more months for restorations. (not nos clear s though. still taking in
NOS clear jobs) but I will sell if you need a core for a restoration.
as for my nos stock, here is what I have.
nos scared stiff cleared
restored/cleared sw episode 1
corvette restored/cleared
NOS eight ball
nos playboy
nos matta hari
nos wizard
wizard repro
nos paragon
nos wilde fyre
nos trident
nos gottlieb dragon EM
nos fire
nos pinball magic
nos wpt
nos Jackbot
nos lotr clearcoated
nos roadshow cleared
nos junkyard cleared
Black knight set repro
nos elvis cleared
captn fantastic repro
nos monopoly
nos south park
nos break shot
nos whirlwind
Medevil madness repro
Monster bash repro
None of them are priced low enough for people to buy them from me and
sell them, but if you need one for a restoration they are affordable.
What I am trying to say, is please dont email me for all of the
prices. I have paid retail for all of them, and they are mostly a
collection, and I love to sell when they are needed. Or when a
customer is looking to have me do a restoration, I suggest one of the
new ones I have in stock.
So there is what is available as for the nos. If there is one in
peticular you need or are interested in more info, just drop me a
line.
Happy mothers day!
kruzman
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TOPIC: Need help, getaway Accelerator Magnet 1 not working..
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/d58624e9faa6adc3?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:38 am
From: bigehrl
i am not certain, but i believe the transistor can't be tested
properly in circuit.
i had the same problem, and i replaced the two related transistors,
and it worked fine. obviously the magnet itself works, so it has to be
on the supercharger board...
-jon - reciprocal nyc
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TOPIC: WTB: Kings & Queens 1965 GTB
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/e2cd4975ab47e393?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:40 am
From: GameRoomCollectibles
A gentleman is looking for his first pinball machine. This is the only
title he remembers. Claims to have played it with his best buddy for
years at some local joint when he was "young." Why couldn't he have
played something more common &/or less valuable? The pinball business...
He's not concerned about cosmetic condition. We're not concerned about
electronic or mechanical condition but mostly complete would be nice. It
wouldn't be the first EM we've fought back to life, although it might be
the last. Who has one of these relics?
-Mike
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:42 am
From: kruzman
On May 8, 10:40 am, GameRoomCollectibles
<gameroomcollectib...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> A gentleman is looking for his first pinball machine. This is the only
> title he remembers. Claims to have played it with his best buddy for
> years at some local joint when he was "young." Why couldn't he have
> played something more common &/or less valuable? The pinball business...
> He's not concerned about cosmetic condition. We're not concerned about
> electronic or mechanical condition but mostly complete would be nice. It
> wouldn't be the first EM we've fought back to life, although it might be
> the last. Who has one of these relics?
>
> -Mike
cool game. I just bought a repro pf for it because it is such a cool
looking pf. Good luck, ron k
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TOPIC: Stern Lightning A2J1 wiring question
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/2832c6167fec5703?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 8 2011 7:48 am
From: SPerva
On May 7, 1:10 pm, "Gott Lieb?" <r...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I just looked again, and my manual addendum is just a photo copy of
> the main manual section. The schems for the PF switches and solenoids
> is wrong in my manual, and the uploaded manual to the IPDB. If you
> have a corrected version of this page, I would u/l to the IPDB.
>
> Jim
>
> On May 7, 1:32 pm, SPerva <spe...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I have the playfield schematic for Lightning, should I post that here?
> > Or should I submit it to IPD?
> > Steve
Jim,
I will scan and submit the schematic to IPD. I took your suggestion
and wired the blue to pin3. I powered up the game and the 10 amp fuse
blew right away. I checked the rectifier board before plugging
anything in and it was correct on everything. I have never had the
game fully on as I bought it in pieces. So i am not sure if it is the
wire or something else. Onwards and upwards.
Steve
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Today's topics:
* Well, Old School is cool........... - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/a483037fd1ead067?hl=en
* WTB - High Speed Center Playfield Plastic - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/e5f4fac24adf5ddf?hl=en
* Auto Plunger Problems POTC - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/1d23666752fa5d34?hl=en
* Another top Stern employee leaving - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/8e03891b89adf499?hl=en
* FS: Collector Quality Addams Family in Colorado Springs - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/c4f0e2619a164fe8?hl=en
* WTB: NOS TOTAN PF ($50 Finders Fee) - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/548fe2c6133df068?hl=en
* WTB Earthshaker plastic...sits to the right by the ramp with the girl on
roller skates - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/e3e71d4bf89d9857?hl=en
* Does anyone have a Truck Stop? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/68467083541b8beb?hl=en
* Who sells new System 11 side rails w/o the nail holes? - 2 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/0a5a076c55d64712?hl=en
* xxxxxxxxxxx - how is everybody blocking him on RGP? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/2ce723831ae9545a?hl=en
* Kingsport Auction Results 5-7-11 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/abcd0482e5693e7f?hl=en
* BLUE DMD - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/88e07c240283c1fb?hl=en
* WPC-95 Playfield with strange issue... - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/f5e16cbfb6d8384c?hl=en
* Game shipping options needed from St. Louis to SF Bay Area... - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/0d8bdce2a865cada?hl=en
* WTB Shadow plastics especially the one near the Sanctum, used and even worn
is okay. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/3840f6320c5f24f7?hl=en
* sample roadshow....question - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/5842e231f4c1dfd2?hl=en
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TOPIC: Well, Old School is cool...........
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/a483037fd1ead067?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:04 pm
From: PapaJohn
Just finished restoring my newly aquired Stars: I've had it for two
weeks now and actually just now played a few games on it.
Working(restoring it) was my first priority. Its challenging, fun and
nice to look at. It goes well with the Blackjack I finished a couple
of months ago. Its a very diverse hobby, old is cool in this hobby,
not just the so-called A & B titles. John
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:14 pm
From: Big12bus
On May 7, 4:04 pm, PapaJohn <mrpapajo...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Just finished restoring my newly aquired Stars: I've had it for two
> weeks now and actually just now played a few games on it.
> Working(restoring it) was my first priority. Its challenging, fun and
> nice to look at. It goes well with the Blackjack I finished a couple
> of months ago. Its a very diverse hobby, old is cool in this hobby,
> not just the so-called A & B titles. John
Beyond cool. I "HAD" DMD's.... My 40 plus machines are mostly 77-84
with some System 11's. People love too play my collection. Ball
times are short and getting good at any one of them takes so much
flipper skill....
Take a WPC game and hit the flipper fast. Not really fast but just
hit it..... It stays up. Transistor controlled flippers
SuCk !!!....Past 1989 it all ended for real flippers.
Bill
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TOPIC: WTB - High Speed Center Playfield Plastic
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/e5f4fac24adf5ddf?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:10 pm
From: Mike O
Looking for the playfield plastic above the center bank of red/yellow/
green stand up targets.
Good used or new repro condition is acceptable.
Mike O.
Team-EM
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TOPIC: Auto Plunger Problems POTC
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/1d23666752fa5d34?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:14 pm
From: Juan_Fingers
I had a similar thing happen to me on Indy 4. Replace the outer coil
spring on the shooter housing. Over time the spring becomes
compressed and the ball is farther up in the shooter lane making it
hard for the auto shooter to make good contact. Just my guess.
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=1834&parent=0
Good luck with your fix.
Lewis
On May 7, 2:36 pm, Rob T <rob...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> When the auto plunger tries to send a ball into play on my POTC, it
> usually will not make it past the one-way gate. Not only that, but the
> ball will also occasionally jump over the left side of the ramp either
> directly onto the playfield, or into the outlane.
>
> When it first started doing this I looked and saw that the plastic
> piece was broken on the auto plunger rod, so I replaced it with
> this:http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=657&parent=0
>
> Got it hooked up fine, and the first 5-7 balls hit into play by the
> auto plunger worked fine, then it started doing what I described above
> (it's as though I didn't replace the broken part).
>
> The ball goes into play fine when I use the manual plunger. I have
> looked for anything in the balls path and don't see anything. The two
> metal prongs that the plunger uses to put the ball into play appear to
> be contacting the ball evenly.
>
> There appears to be no real way to adjust this, but even if there was,
> I can't tell what is causing the ball to come out so erratically. I
> would say less than 50% of the time the ball will be put into play
> correctly.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> --
> Rob T
> This USENET post sent from http://rgparchive.com
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:55 pm
From: pinballmike217
On May 7, 4:36 pm, Rob T <rob...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> When the auto plunger tries to send a ball into play on my POTC, it
> usually will not make it past the one-way gate. Not only that, but the
> ball will also occasionally jump over the left side of the ramp either
> directly onto the playfield, or into the outlane.
>
> When it first started doing this I looked and saw that the plastic
> piece was broken on the auto plunger rod, so I replaced it with
> this:http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=657&parent=0
>
> Got it hooked up fine, and the first 5-7 balls hit into play by the
> auto plunger worked fine, then it started doing what I described above
> (it's as though I didn't replace the broken part).
>
> The ball goes into play fine when I use the manual plunger. I have
> looked for anything in the balls path and don't see anything. The two
> metal prongs that the plunger uses to put the ball into play appear to
> be contacting the ball evenly.
>
> There appears to be no real way to adjust this, but even if there was,
> I can't tell what is causing the ball to come out so erratically. I
> would say less than 50% of the time the ball will be put into play
> correctly.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> --
> Rob T
> This USENET post sent from http://rgparchive.com
There are also two nyliner bushings like this:
http://bayareaamusements.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=MC-545-5050-00&Category_Code=
that keep the plunger bracket aligned. If yours are worn or missing
that could cause a problem. Double check for the correct part number,
there are many different sizes.
Mike
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TOPIC: Another top Stern employee leaving
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/8e03891b89adf499?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:24 pm
From: "cody chunn"
Howard Stern garbage.
-cody
"phishrace" wrote in message
news:f35e3820-aeb2-438d-8c4c-946add6dd35c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
The brain drain continues. d:^(
http://tinyurl.com/3jn8uta
-phish
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:49 pm
From: Bozotonian
Get lost Robin...........Bring back Artie
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TOPIC: FS: Collector Quality Addams Family in Colorado Springs
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/c4f0e2619a164fe8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:26 pm
From: obg
How come its called Festers Tunnel Hunt during Mansion Awards then ??
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TOPIC: WTB: NOS TOTAN PF ($50 Finders Fee)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/548fe2c6133df068?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:29 pm
From: Mark - Long Island
Interested in buying a mint condition NOS TOTAN PF.
Also, I will pay a $50 finders fee if you personally don't have one
but are able to connect me with someone who does.
Thank you. Please email me directly.
Enjoy your weekend.
-Mark
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:33 pm
From: Tom G
On May 7, 4:29 pm, Mark - Long Island <markhitt...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Interested in buying a mint condition NOS TOTAN PF.
> Also, I will pay a $50 finders fee if you personally don't have one
> but are able to connect me with someone who does.
>
> Thank you. Please email me directly.
> Enjoy your weekend.
>
> -Mark
if your patient CPR has them on the list to do. The preorder is still
open on it.
http://www.classicplayfields.com/order.html
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TOPIC: WTB Earthshaker plastic...sits to the right by the ramp with the girl
on roller skates
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/e3e71d4bf89d9857?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:30 pm
From: polishedball
On May 7, 5:00 pm, Hogey <JHo...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> I know this is a stretch...just picked up a nice ES and need a
> replacement plastic (the end is broken off of the one I got). Any
> ideas on when the replacement sets are due out?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hogey
Is it a zone plastic? There are some are some individual available at
mad-amuesments. I just ordered some.
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TOPIC: Does anyone have a Truck Stop?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/68467083541b8beb?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:31 pm
From: Shredso
I bought a project machine that was mid playfield swap. Well, more
like take off all the parts and decide not to do it. Is there a
rubber map or does anyone have pictures beyond whats on ipdb? Any
pics at all would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Ed.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:45 pm
From: SaBbRa CaDaBra
On May 7, 5:31 pm, Shredso <shre...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I bought a project machine that was mid playfield swap. Well, more
> like take off all the parts and decide not to do it. Is there a
> rubber map or does anyone have pictures beyond whats on ipdb? Any
> pics at all would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>
> Ed.
email sent
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TOPIC: Who sells new System 11 side rails w/o the nail holes?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/0a5a076c55d64712?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:33 pm
From: MrBellMan
I may need a few sets for two Champagne FIRE! project games.
Thanks,
Rob Bell
CARGPB20 ;-)
www.robsgameroom.com
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:40 pm
From: MB
On May 7, 2:33 pm, MrBellMan <rob_b...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I may need a few sets for two Champagne FIRE! project games.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob Bell
> CARGPB20 ;-)www.robsgameroom.com
hell- who sells them WITH the holes?
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TOPIC: xxxxxxxxxxx - how is everybody blocking him on RGP?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/2ce723831ae9545a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:37 pm
From: ImpalaGuy
One advantage of reading through google groups is the "report spam"
button has been amazingly effective. I basically never see King Crap
Master'SS posts anymore and only know if one even existed because of a
reply. Recently I saw one just disappear within minutes of posting.
Very cool.
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TOPIC: Kingsport Auction Results 5-7-11
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/abcd0482e5693e7f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:40 pm
From: Doug Hay
2 NGG's! I can't even find one
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TOPIC: BLUE DMD
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/88e07c240283c1fb?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:47 pm
From: Captain Neo
On May 7, 3:05 pm, RotaryRex <jon.mar...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On May 7, 8:55 pm, Captain Neo <nwoj...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > purple DMD's? That would be tits.
>
> Never heard that saying before :-) since no man would compain about
> tits I'll take it that it means good. Purple on BDK will look sick
> especially next to a TRON with blue, SM & IM with red (might try
> yellow/gold) and a Shrek with green.
really? that was a slang term used a lot in the 70's.
:)
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:58 pm
From: RotaryRex
On May 7, 10:47 pm, Captain Neo <nwoj...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On May 7, 3:05 pm, RotaryRex <jon.mar...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > On May 7, 8:55 pm, Captain Neo <nwoj...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > > purple DMD's? That would be tits.
>
> > Never heard that saying before :-) since no man would compain about
> > tits I'll take it that it means good. Purple on BDK will look sick
> > especially next to a TRON with blue, SM & IM with red (might try
> > yellow/gold) and a Shrek with green.
>
> really? that was a slang term used a lot in the 70's.
>
> :)
That's probably why the 70's where a little before my time, only just
25 here - young pinball player :-p
Looks like there will be quite abit of interest in these upcoming led
dmds, I just hope they are resonably priced, pinleds €399 for blue dmd
put me off.
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TOPIC: WPC-95 Playfield with strange issue...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/f5e16cbfb6d8384c?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:47 pm
From: Betelgeuse
This was the first winter that I used a room at the back of my
basement for several pins. The room is dry and heated, but tends to
get colder than the rest of the basement because it's not well
insulated. I live in PA. Anyways, I was cleaning up my games the
other day and noticed that one of the games had barely visible
vertical lines (about .8mm apart) running through the *entire*
playfield. They seem to be superficial and are very even and
parallel. I can't be sure if it was like that before, but I had never
noticed it. The other games in the room all looked fine. Even the
one backglass seemed unaffected. Could this be caused by the colder
temps? I wouldn't think it get's colder than maybe 45 degrees ever in
that room. Has anyone seen this before?
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 3:00 pm
From: "seymour.shabow"
Betelgeuse wrote:
> This was the first winter that I used a room at the back of my
> basement for several pins. The room is dry and heated, but tends to
> get colder than the rest of the basement because it's not well
> insulated. I live in PA. Anyways, I was cleaning up my games the
> other day and noticed that one of the games had barely visible
> vertical lines (about .8mm apart) running through the *entire*
> playfield. They seem to be superficial and are very even and
> parallel. I can't be sure if it was like that before, but I had never
> noticed it. The other games in the room all looked fine. Even the
> one backglass seemed unaffected. Could this be caused by the colder
> temps? I wouldn't think it get's colder than maybe 45 degrees ever in
> that room. Has anyone seen this before?
Yup, that's what's meant by the term 'planking'.
A combination of the cold and low humidity probably was the cause of yours.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:59 pm
From: Betelgeuse
On May 7, 6:00 pm, "seymour.shabow" <seymour.sha...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Betelgeuse wrote:
> > This was the first winter that I used a room at the back of my
> > basement for several pins. The room is dry and heated, but tends to
> > get colder than the rest of the basement because it's not well
> > insulated. I live in PA. Anyways, I was cleaning up my games the
> > other day and noticed that one of the games had barely visible
> > vertical lines (about .8mm apart) running through the *entire*
> > playfield. They seem to be superficial and are very even and
> > parallel. I can't be sure if it was like that before, but I had never
> > noticed it. The other games in the room all looked fine. Even the
> > one backglass seemed unaffected. Could this be caused by the colder
> > temps? I wouldn't think it get's colder than maybe 45 degrees ever in
> > that room. Has anyone seen this before?
>
> Yup, that's what's meant by the term 'planking'.
>
> A combination of the cold and low humidity probably was the cause of yours.
That was my first thought, but I hadn't seen planking like this.
Everything I had read said it was safe to keep games in these types of
temps, with the backglass being the chief concern. Could the
playfield really be more fragile than a backglass? :(
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TOPIC: Game shipping options needed from St. Louis to SF Bay Area...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/0d8bdce2a865cada?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:51 pm
From: alive-cds
Whatcha gonna get??
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TOPIC: WTB Shadow plastics especially the one near the Sanctum, used and even
worn is okay.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/3840f6320c5f24f7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:51 pm
From: Rob
On May 7, 3:31 pm, wesley <wkco...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On May 2, 11:46 am, wesley <wkco...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Although would love to buy just a few newplastics, doesn't seem
> > anyone sellls them this way. Most are okay on my machine but the
> > sizeable where the balls lock after going into the Sanctum is
> > completely gone to the point I'd take almost one in any condtion as
> > long as it won't crumble when I install it.
>
> Lots of $ to buy the whole plastics set and might eventually but
> prefer the above plastic and possibly a few others even from a parted
> out machine. Problem I have is Sanctum plastic is gone and sometimes
> pinball ends up in the area. Last resort is to cover the area but
> prefer to find the correct plastic even one in fair to poor but mostly
> intact.
I should have a decent used one for the sanctum. Is that the only
plastic you need? I will look and see what I have and the condition
etc.,
Rob
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TOPIC: sample roadshow....question
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/5842e231f4c1dfd2?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 2:55 pm
From: donnyjj2005
Besides the red light boards, and the eddy switches..what are the
differences? Any artwork, modes, etc....
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Today's topics:
* Big thanks to Menace and machine.slave! - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/5603f2ba476e3273?hl=en
* Custom Pinball Machine Creation by John Popadiuk - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/73d5bc51cac71ce8?hl=en
* Tech help JM - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/4ba95c4e7686c178?hl=en
* DMD film_GREAT PRODUCT!!! - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/f66c66f864ddb493?hl=en
* TRON pics are up - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/1c6f8baf4a68993b?hl=en
* Cirqus Votaire- where does this plastic part go? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/1dfcaf8f4ae095e4?hl=en
* TECH: Repairing a Gottlieb Jungle. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/f22da343f515f9fe?hl=en
* OT: Osama bin smoked! - 5 messages, 4 authors
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* TECH: Classic Stern Quicksilver Repro Drop Target Reset Issue - 1 messages,
1 author
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* Tech: Flash Drop Targets Not Resetting - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Anyone selling a Bally ELEKTRA Pinball at Allentown? - 1 messages, 1 author
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* PINFEST any new updates? cannot get a reply from Ivan - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Las Vegas pinball at the Rivera Hotel - 1 messages, 1 author
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* WTB: White Water cabinet decals - 1 messages, 1 author
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* FS: Brand New Multi Products Oscillating Motor - $45 - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Big thanks to Menace and machine.slave!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/5603f2ba476e3273?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 9:33 am
From: Pinhead37
On May 2, 12:29 pm, McMean <danielmclea...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I've dealt with both those dudes before... they're top notch guys.
I second That......
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 9:36 am
From: "Corey C."
Totally agree. Over the years, there's been a few people that I've met
as a result of pinball that have become genuine friends. Doug and
Brock are certainly two of them.
They're higher than top notch.
On May 2, 12:29 pm, McMean <danielmclea...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I've dealt with both those dudes before... they're top notch guys.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 9:42 am
From: "machine.slave"
Always happy to help my fellow pinheads.. :)
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TOPIC: Custom Pinball Machine Creation by John Popadiuk
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/73d5bc51cac71ce8?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 9:34 am
From: "Lloyd Olson"
Excellent news. Glad your talent will still be active in pinball. LTG :)
"DesignerJpop" <designerjpop@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:da09d7a0-4c05-4732-bd5d-d6d46b9dbead@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Hi..
>
> Well the phone has been ringing (not from you know who), so I
> thought I would finally post here. If you are really looking for a
> classic American Built pinball machine with real drawn pinball
> art, new playfield wizardry, built just for you and your family, then
> give me call to get started.
>
> I am available for a limited number of commissions NOW to create
> "wicked" custom pinball machines in the spirit of some of my own
> designs like Cirqus Voltaire, Theatre of Magic and Pinball Wizard!
> Complete ground up design in a standard game or hybrid-digital
> design (patent pending) I have created to bring in the next
> revolution.
>
> All commissions will float on a secure blog to keep track of the
> process
> as it happens in real time. We can also create an iPhone app too!
>
> Enquiries can visit (zidware.com/pinballcustom.html) or call me
> personally
> to get more information. We would work together in my Chicago studio
> during the process. All games would be hand delivered by my crew, so
> you
> would have to have a barbeque get together or something ready!
>
> I will also be in Seattle taking orders at the NWPinball Show.
>
> Cheers and let's keep pinball alive.
>
> John Popadiuk
> Chicago Illinois
> USA
> (224) 532-0639
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 9:36 am
From: twilightzonepinball
On May 2, 11:51 am, DesignerJpop <designerj...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi..
>
> Well the phone has been ringing (not from you know who), so I
> thought I would finally post here. If you are really looking for a
> classic American Built pinball machine with real drawn pinball
> art, new playfield wizardry, built just for you and your family, then
> give me call to get started.
>
> I am available for a limited number of commissions NOW to create
> "wicked" custom pinball machines in the spirit of some of my own
> designs like Cirqus Voltaire, Theatre of Magic and Pinball Wizard!
> Complete ground up design in a standard game or hybrid-digital
> design (patent pending) I have created to bring in the next
> revolution.
>
> All commissions will float on a secure blog to keep track of the
> process
> as it happens in real time. We can also create an iPhone app too!
>
> Enquiries can visit (zidware.com/pinballcustom.html) or call me
> personally
> to get more information. We would work together in my Chicago studio
> during the process. All games would be hand delivered by my crew, so
> you
> would have to have a barbeque get together or something ready!
>
> I will also be in Seattle taking orders at the NWPinball Show.
>
> Cheers and let's keep pinball alive.
>
> John Popadiuk
> Chicago Illinois
> USA
> (224) 532-0639
Any examples of custom work?
-Tom
http://home.myfairpoint.net/vze8f4tt/tomstwilightzonepinballmachineaccessories/index.html
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 9:47 am
From: Rockstar
On May 2, 10:51 am, DesignerJpop <designerj...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi..
>
> Well the phone has been ringing (not from you know who), so I
> thought I would finally post here. If you are really looking for a
> classic American Built pinball machine with real drawn pinball
> art, new playfield wizardry, built just for you and your family, then
> give me call to get started.
>
> I am available for a limited number of commissions NOW to create
> "wicked" custom pinball machines in the spirit of some of my own
> designs like Cirqus Voltaire, Theatre of Magic and Pinball Wizard!
> Complete ground up design in a standard game or hybrid-digital
> design (patent pending) I have created to bring in the next
> revolution.
>
> All commissions will float on a secure blog to keep track of the
> process
> as it happens in real time. We can also create an iPhone app too!
>
> Enquiries can visit (zidware.com/pinballcustom.html) or call me
> personally
> to get more information. We would work together in my Chicago studio
> during the process. All games would be hand delivered by my crew, so
> you
> would have to have a barbeque get together or something ready!
>
> I will also be in Seattle taking orders at the NWPinball Show.
>
> Cheers and let's keep pinball alive.
>
> John Popadiuk
> Chicago Illinois
> USA
> (224) 532-0639
Just got a TOTAN and am loving every minute of it. I can't think of a
custom machine that would be better than this. Thanks for everything
you've given to this industry. I may take you up on the custom offer
one day.
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TOPIC: Tech help JM
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/4ba95c4e7686c178?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 9:36 am
From: Scott in Hubertus
On May 2, 8:54 am, Don <bigdon...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> An error f5 ball in hand comes up on my JM. It seems to work fine
> during game play. When I run a hand test, the hand does not move.
> Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.
There is a switch inside the middle of the magnet that gets activated
when the ball gets sucked up into it. It's made out of very thin
copper sheet like spring steel.
Test the switch with a ball and see if it works. If not, the switch
may be stuck closed and needs to be adjusted.
I had to adjust mine a few times before it worked 100% of the time.
It can be touchty.
Scott.
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TOPIC: DMD film_GREAT PRODUCT!!!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/f66c66f864ddb493?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 9:35 am
From: stevenp
freeman;1688481 Wrote:
> incase you missed it, here is an infomative website
>
> http://www.thekorn.net/glare_guards/
Good comparison! For those who are using the pbl film, do you
like/notice the increased clarity of the dots? (The comparison pics on
Korn's review don't include any 'graphic' dmd images, just test
patterns.)
--
stevenp
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 9:52 am
From: Jay
I liked the increased clarity of the PBL guard and it did a good job of
reducing glare but mine lifted off and curled up when it was in an 80° garage
for an afternoon. YMMV.
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TOPIC: TRON pics are up
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/1c6f8baf4a68993b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 9:38 am
From: John Bigbooty
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 08:13:10 -0700 (PDT), mnpinball
<mnpinball@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>http://www.pingamejournal.com/current
Glad so many are happy and I hope it translates into good sales for
Stern and good money for ops.
While I find the layout interesting and look forward to seeing the
rules, I hate the artwork. Way too much blue for my tastes and the
translate is simply too dark.
Combining what I consider bad artwork on top of what I consider a bad
theme means no purchase for me. Hopefully I'll have the opportunity to
play it on location.
Mark
Atlanta GA
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TOPIC: Cirqus Votaire- where does this plastic part go?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/1dfcaf8f4ae095e4?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 9:39 am
From: stevenp
Allan Davidson;1688589 Wrote:
> It goes inside the ringmaster, between the center post screw and the
> mounting plate. The notch is for the wires. You cannot see it unless
> you take the ringmaster's head off.
>
> Allan
>
> On May 1, 5:36*pm, mdsaund... (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net wrote:
> > Hi Cirqus Voltaire owners.
> > Does anybody know where the small 1 inch clear plastic with a hole
> in
> > the center and a notch on it goes? I bought a plastic set and all
> the
> > protectors available and want to get the game back to having every
> > piece where it belongs.
> > Thanks!
Inside the head? What does this do here???
--
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TOPIC: TECH: Repairing a Gottlieb Jungle.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/f22da343f515f9fe?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 9:41 am
From: Lee
On May 1, 8:08 pm, Tim <timewi...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On May 1, 6:26 pm, Atomicboy <aattr...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I have zero experience with EM's. I have recently bought another one,
> > Hocus Pocus, and trying to get this Jungle working for someone. I've
> > been doing some reading, and tinkering, but not tinkering with the
> > right tinks apparently.
>
> > The game, when turned on and power button pushed, has the lightbox
> > light up, with tilt lit, and no other lights. I thought this was an
> > issue with a tilt relay at first, however after some rgp reading, I
> > confirmed this is the correct sequence.
>
> > I had to adjust some relays that were either not closing or opening as
> > they should, however can't get this thing to start. There is a button
> > in the middle of the coin door that I thought was a start button, but
> > I read that games start on some EM's when you drop the coins. Either
> > way, I can't get a game to start. I get no relays actuating when
> > entering coins or doing really anything.
>
> > I can get the 1st ball in play and game over relay to actuate if I
> > tilt the cab tilt, but no other tilts, and it only does this once,
> > unless I turn off and back on again.
>
> > I cleaned the connectors, and the hold, tilt and reset relay
> > switches. I had to pull apart the credit wheel mech as the coils
> > would not move it correctly. Works manually good, but still something
> > appear to be holding up this machine.
>
> > There are three wires in the coin door that are not connected, but I
> > can't see what they could have possibly been connected to, as there is
> > no middle/3rd coin mech. Looked at first like a sys80 freeplay hack,
> > but any sequence of connecting them doesn't do anything (including
> > electrocute me).
>
> > Anyone have any ideas based on this long winded and likely useless
> > bits of info?
>
> > Aaron
>
> Try manually adding credits from the backbax by stepping up the credit
> unit.
> Then try your red button on the coin door.
> If you have no credits,and the game isn't set to free play,and your
> coin chutes have been disconnected,then you need credits to fire up
> the game.
> Let us know what you find out.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Credits showing in the credit window (zero-position switch on the
credit unit stepper needs to be closed) ?
Anti-slam switch (on the insdie of the coin door) closed and clean ?
If the above 2 conditions are satisfied and the machine still won't
start a game, you'll want to consult the schematic and find the
circuit branch that contains the start button switch (Gottlieb may
have called it "replay button sw." in 1972). There will be a number
of other normally-closed (NC) switches in series with the replay
button, between the power and ground sides of the schematic. All
these switches will need to be closed and conducting or the replay
button alone will not complete the circuit. One of the NC switches
will probably be an anti-cheat switch, and two different NC switches
will likely be located at two different positions of the score motor.
There will probably be a couple other NC switches in the circuit
also. Consult the schematic if you have one. If not, maybe someone
else with the game can check it.
Lee
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TOPIC: OT: Osama bin smoked!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/1062dfa4f1d0f22c?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 9:44 am
From: Retrogameconnection
On May 2, 8:58 am, Pinballed <probass...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> On May 2, 11:45 am, Butterflygirl24 <P24...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 2, 11:31 am, DesignerJpop <designerj...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > > On May 2, 10:29 am, "AVP Pinball Division" <serv...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > "Retrogameconnection" <wins...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:911542c9-2909-4792-a156-fb5e3001140b@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > On May 2, 7:43 am, "AVP Pinball Division" <serv...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > Game over for Bin Laden.
>
> > > > > Pete
>
> > > > || Looks like you forgot the OT also....
> > > > ||
> > > > ||
> > > > || Let me get that for you....
>
> > > > Technically the "Game Over" part kinda weasels it toward being on
> > > > topic. :P
>
> > > > Damn Windows mail... Had the newsreader section open while trying to
> > > > send an
> > > > email and it, by default, sends it to the newsgroup even though I typed
> > > > in
> > > > an email address. :(
>
> > > yeh...but there are no pics? who knows?
>
> > > John
>
> > > > Oh well, all was not lost. The family secrets are still safe. :)
>
> > > > Mr. Gates, as crappy as it was, please return my Outlook Express. :p
>
> > > > --
> > > > Pistol Pete
>
> > > > --
> > > > Pistol Pete
> > > > AVP Pinball Division
> > > > Towson, MD
> > > >410-583-9200begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 410-583-9200 end_of_the_skype_highlightingwww.AVPpinball.com
> > > > serv...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > Yeah, and it seems kinda convenient that his body is already
> > "disposed" of...Don't get me wrong, If it is true I am thrilled let
> > the parties commence....but also...unfortunately, this does not mean
> > the end either...some other dumb ass terrorist will jump in and take
> > over just were he left off, and probably reciprocate for us (us being
> > the good ole USA!!) killing him!! So hopefully we don't get to
> > complacent or it will be WAY to easy for them to pull of an even worse
> > attack than the Twin Towers coming down and killing all those
> > people...
> > Sorry to be the wet noodle....and I thank all the US soldiers and
> > their families for protecting us and putting their lives on the line
> > everyday so we can be free.....just my glass half empty mind coming
> > out here!! :-)
>
> > Phoebe
> > CARGPB#38- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I'm with you Phoebe...his body being disposed so quickly at sea where
> good luck finding it...smells a bit off to me. I mean, how gullible do
> they take us for? Theres been long rumours Bin Laden's been dead for a
> few years already. His health was terrible even before 9/11. His
> kidneys were shot, he had various treatment in US facilities...gotta
> love healthcare you can pay for. It IS a great political feel good
> story, and it couldnt happen at a more needed time but I fear thats
> all it is. Lets give the people something to feel good about and it'll
> make the government look really good. I want to see his body. Theres
> NO excuse for this ...oh, theres no body, we dumped it at sea
> bullsh*t. Seriously, you're not going to believe that so easily are
> you? Dont get me wrong, glad hes gone, and thats the bottom line for
> me anyways.
> But, has anybody realised that its a great excuse for all kindsa
> crackpot terrorist organizations to do revenge attatcks? I think it
> left a very dangerous door left wide open. I sure hope I'm wrong.- Hide
> quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
There is a picture available of him post mortem. He has a bullet hole
just above his nose and to the right. Kinda mangled his eye a
little. This was no hoax - the guy is done.
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 9:48 am
From: brokenvette
On May 2, 11:44 am, Retrogameconnection <wins...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On May 2, 8:58 am, Pinballed <probass...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 2, 11:45 am, Butterflygirl24 <P24...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > > On May 2, 11:31 am, DesignerJpop <designerj...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 2, 10:29 am, "AVP Pinball Division" <serv...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > "Retrogameconnection" <wins...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:911542c9-2909-4792-a156-fb5e3001140b@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > On May 2, 7:43 am, "AVP Pinball Division" <serv...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > Game over for Bin Laden.
>
> > > > > > Pete
>
> > > > > || Looks like you forgot the OT also....
> > > > > ||
> > > > > ||
> > > > > || Let me get that for you....
>
> > > > > Technically the "Game Over" part kinda weasels it toward being on
> > > > > topic. :P
>
> > > > > Damn Windows mail... Had the newsreader section open while trying to
> > > > > send an
> > > > > email and it, by default, sends it to the newsgroup even though I
> > > > > typed in
> > > > > an email address. :(
>
> > > > yeh...but there are no pics? who knows?
>
> > > > John
>
> > > > > Oh well, all was not lost. The family secrets are still safe. :)
>
> > > > > Mr. Gates, as crappy as it was, please return my Outlook Express. :p
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > Pistol Pete
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > Pistol Pete
> > > > > AVP Pinball Division
> > > > > Towson, MD
> > > > >410-583-9200begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 410-583-9200 end_of_the_skype_highlightingwww.AVPpinball.com
> > > > > serv...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > > Yeah, and it seems kinda convenient that his body is already
> > > "disposed" of...Don't get me wrong, If it is true I am thrilled let
> > > the parties commence....but also...unfortunately, this does not mean
> > > the end either...some other dumb ass terrorist will jump in and take
> > > over just were he left off, and probably reciprocate for us (us being
> > > the good ole USA!!) killing him!! So hopefully we don't get to
> > > complacent or it will be WAY to easy for them to pull of an even worse
> > > attack than the Twin Towers coming down and killing all those
> > > people...
> > > Sorry to be the wet noodle....and I thank all the US soldiers and
> > > their families for protecting us and putting their lives on the line
> > > everyday so we can be free.....just my glass half empty mind coming
> > > out here!! :-)
>
> > > Phoebe
> > > CARGPB#38- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > I'm with you Phoebe...his body being disposed so quickly at sea where
> > good luck finding it...smells a bit off to me. I mean, how gullible do
> > they take us for? Theres been long rumours Bin Laden's been dead for a
> > few years already. His health was terrible even before 9/11. His
> > kidneys were shot, he had various treatment in US facilities...gotta
> > love healthcare you can pay for. It IS a great political feel good
> > story, and it couldnt happen at a more needed time but I fear thats
> > all it is. Lets give the people something to feel good about and it'll
> > make the government look really good. I want to see his body. Theres
> > NO excuse for this ...oh, theres no body, we dumped it at sea
> > bullsh*t. Seriously, you're not going to believe that so easily are
> > you? Dont get me wrong, glad hes gone, and thats the bottom line for
> > me anyways.
> > But, has anybody realised that its a great excuse for all kindsa
> > crackpot terrorist organizations to do revenge attatcks? I think it
> > left a very dangerous door left wide open. I sure hope I'm wrong.- Hide
> > quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> There is a picture available of him post mortem. He has a bullet hole
> just above his nose and to the right. Kinda mangled his eye a
> little. This was no hoax - the guy is done.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Cool, I wanna see it. I wonder why it hasnt been shown anywhere. I
guess it has since your telling me you have seen it but I havnt seen
it on TV or on the net so far. It made my hour on the cross trainer
seem short at 5 this morning seeing all the footage on this.
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 9:49 am
From: marcusaurelius9
On May 2, 12:30 pm, brokenvette <zr11...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On May 2, 10:58 am, Pinballed <probass...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 2, 11:45 am, Butterflygirl24 <P24...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > > On May 2, 11:31 am, DesignerJpop <designerj...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 2, 10:29 am, "AVP Pinball Division" <serv...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > "Retrogameconnection" <wins...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:911542c9-2909-4792-a156-fb5e3001140b@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > On May 2, 7:43 am, "AVP Pinball Division" <serv...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > Game over for Bin Laden.
>
> > > > > > Pete
>
> > > > > || Looks like you forgot the OT also....
> > > > > ||
> > > > > ||
> > > > > || Let me get that for you....
>
> > > > > Technically the "Game Over" part kinda weasels it toward being on
> > > > > topic. :P
>
> > > > > Damn Windows mail... Had the newsreader section open while trying to
> > > > > send an
> > > > > email and it, by default, sends it to the newsgroup even though I
> > > > > typed in
> > > > > an email address. :(
>
> > > > yeh...but there are no pics? who knows?
>
> > > > John
>
> > > > > Oh well, all was not lost. The family secrets are still safe. :)
>
> > > > > Mr. Gates, as crappy as it was, please return my Outlook Express. :p
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > Pistol Pete
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > Pistol Pete
> > > > > AVP Pinball Division
> > > > > Towson, MD
> > > > > 410-583-9200www.AVPpinball.com
> > > > > serv...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > > Yeah, and it seems kinda convenient that his body is already
> > > "disposed" of...Don't get me wrong, If it is true I am thrilled let
> > > the parties commence....but also...unfortunately, this does not mean
> > > the end either...some other dumb ass terrorist will jump in and take
> > > over just were he left off, and probably reciprocate for us (us being
> > > the good ole USA!!) killing him!! So hopefully we don't get to
> > > complacent or it will be WAY to easy for them to pull of an even worse
> > > attack than the Twin Towers coming down and killing all those
> > > people...
> > > Sorry to be the wet noodle....and I thank all the US soldiers and
> > > their families for protecting us and putting their lives on the line
> > > everyday so we can be free.....just my glass half empty mind coming
> > > out here!! :-)
>
> > > Phoebe
> > > CARGPB#38- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > I'm with you Phoebe...his body being disposed so quickly at sea where
> > good luck finding it...smells a bit off to me. I mean, how gullible do
> > they take us for? Theres been long rumours Bin Laden's been dead for a
> > few years already. His health was terrible even before 9/11. His
> > kidneys were shot, he had various treatment in US facilities...gotta
> > love healthcare you can pay for. It IS a great political feel good
> > story, and it couldnt happen at a more needed time but I fear thats
> > all it is. Lets give the people something to feel good about and it'll
> > make the government look really good. I want to see his body. Theres
> > NO excuse for this ...oh, theres no body, we dumped it at sea
> > bullsh*t. Seriously, you're not going to believe that so easily are
> > you? Dont get me wrong, glad hes gone, and thats the bottom line for
> > me anyways.
> > But, has anybody realised that its a great excuse for all kindsa
> > crackpot terrorist organizations to do revenge attatcks? I think it
> > left a very dangerous door left wide open. I sure hope I'm wrong.- Hide
> > quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Since you guys brought it up has anyone thought that it may just be a
> ploy to make BO look good to get him voted back in office? We have
> seen no pics of this guys dead ass anywhere.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
The crazies are coming out early today. Yes, it does seem odd that
his body is gone already. The explanation that they followed Islamic
law to have him buried within 24 hours makes sense on one level but
doesn't fit with our usual expectations. But to claim that this whole
thing is set up for Obama's sake it just stupid. First thing to
realize is that he is dead and his body is gone, there is no way he is
not dead and there is no way he just died some time ago and got buried
in the mountains by his followers. They would not make up this story
to have him come out with a new video tomorrow or have his long dead
corpse show up somewhere tomorrow. The only thing that makes logical
sense is that he died and we have/had his body. There is no other way
this story is going to be put out. The only thing in question is the
circumstances of his death. In the upcoming months we will have video
of the raid and we will have interviews with the SEALs. To think that
all the people who are going to come out of the woodwork involved in
this are all Obama robots carrying on with a massive cover up is just
stupid. Will all the Republican Senators and Congressmen sit back and
let a story they don't believe carry on? Will George Bush? WIll Dick
Cheney? Nobody is stupid enough to put out a fake story that would so
easily be proven fake.
I guess the left wing has the wacky 911 conspiracy theorists, so
why shouldn't the right wing have the wacky Bin Laden death conspiracy
theorists.
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 10:02 am
From: Pinballed
Nobody is stupid enough to put out a fake story that would so
> easily be proven fake.
>
Really? Seriously? History has proven that statement wrong so many
times I dont even know where to begin. Point it, yes, hes
dead...probably has been dead for years mind you, and it solves
nothing. Good times.
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 10:02 am
From: brokenvette
On May 2, 11:49 am, marcusaurelius9 <marcusaurelius1...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> On May 2, 12:30 pm, brokenvette <zr11...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 2, 10:58 am, Pinballed <probass...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > > On May 2, 11:45 am, Butterflygirl24 <P24...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 2, 11:31 am, DesignerJpop <designerj...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 2, 10:29 am, "AVP Pinball Division" <serv...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > "Retrogameconnection" <wins...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>
> > > > > >news:911542c9-2909-4792-a156-fb5e3001140b@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > On May 2, 7:43 am, "AVP Pinball Division" <serv...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Game over for Bin Laden.
>
> > > > > > > Pete
>
> > > > > > || Looks like you forgot the OT also....
> > > > > > ||
> > > > > > ||
> > > > > > || Let me get that for you....
>
> > > > > > Technically the "Game Over" part kinda weasels it toward being on
> > > > > > topic. :P
>
> > > > > > Damn Windows mail... Had the newsreader section open while trying
> > > > > > to send an
> > > > > > email and it, by default, sends it to the newsgroup even though I
> > > > > > typed in
> > > > > > an email address. :(
>
> > > > > yeh...but there are no pics? who knows?
>
> > > > > John
>
> > > > > > Oh well, all was not lost. The family secrets are still safe. :)
>
> > > > > > Mr. Gates, as crappy as it was, please return my Outlook Express.
> > > > > > :p
>
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Pistol Pete
>
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Pistol Pete
> > > > > > AVP Pinball Division
> > > > > > Towson, MD
> > > > > > 410-583-9200www.AVPpinball.com
> > > > > > serv...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > > > Yeah, and it seems kinda convenient that his body is already
> > > > "disposed" of...Don't get me wrong, If it is true I am thrilled let
> > > > the parties commence....but also...unfortunately, this does not mean
> > > > the end either...some other dumb ass terrorist will jump in and take
> > > > over just were he left off, and probably reciprocate for us (us being
> > > > the good ole USA!!) killing him!! So hopefully we don't get to
> > > > complacent or it will be WAY to easy for them to pull of an even worse
> > > > attack than the Twin Towers coming down and killing all those
> > > > people...
> > > > Sorry to be the wet noodle....and I thank all the US soldiers and
> > > > their families for protecting us and putting their lives on the line
> > > > everyday so we can be free.....just my glass half empty mind coming
> > > > out here!! :-)
>
> > > > Phoebe
> > > > CARGPB#38- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > I'm with you Phoebe...his body being disposed so quickly at sea where
> > > good luck finding it...smells a bit off to me. I mean, how gullible do
> > > they take us for? Theres been long rumours Bin Laden's been dead for a
> > > few years already. His health was terrible even before 9/11. His
> > > kidneys were shot, he had various treatment in US facilities...gotta
> > > love healthcare you can pay for. It IS a great political feel good
> > > story, and it couldnt happen at a more needed time but I fear thats
> > > all it is. Lets give the people something to feel good about and it'll
> > > make the government look really good. I want to see his body. Theres
> > > NO excuse for this ...oh, theres no body, we dumped it at sea
> > > bullsh*t. Seriously, you're not going to believe that so easily are
> > > you? Dont get me wrong, glad hes gone, and thats the bottom line for
> > > me anyways.
> > > But, has anybody realised that its a great excuse for all kindsa
> > > crackpot terrorist organizations to do revenge attatcks? I think it
> > > left a very dangerous door left wide open. I sure hope I'm wrong.- Hide
> > > quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Since you guys brought it up has anyone thought that it may just be a
> > ploy to make BO look good to get him voted back in office? We have
> > seen no pics of this guys dead ass anywhere.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> The crazies are coming out early today. Yes, it does seem odd that
> his body is gone already. The explanation that they followed Islamic
> law to have him buried within 24 hours makes sense on one level but
> doesn't fit with our usual expectations. But to claim that this whole
> thing is set up for Obama's sake it just stupid. First thing to
> realize is that he is dead and his body is gone, there is no way he is
> not dead and there is no way he just died some time ago and got buried
> in the mountains by his followers. They would not make up this story
> to have him come out with a new video tomorrow or have his long dead
> corpse show up somewhere tomorrow. The only thing that makes logical
> sense is that he died and we have/had his body. There is no other way
> this story is going to be put out. The only thing in question is the
> circumstances of his death. In the upcoming months we will have video
> of the raid and we will have interviews with the SEALs. To think that
> all the people who are going to come out of the woodwork involved in
> this are all Obama robots carrying on with a massive cover up is just
> stupid. Will all the Republican Senators and Congressmen sit back and
> let a story they don't believe carry on? Will George Bush? WIll Dick
> Cheney? Nobody is stupid enough to put out a fake story that would so
> easily be proven fake.
>
> I guess the left wing has the wacky 911 conspiracy theorists, so
> why shouldn't the right wing have the wacky Bin Laden death conspiracy
> theorists.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hold on. I didnt make any acusations. I simply asked if it had crossed
anyones mind. I didnt even bring the subject up, it came from Pheobe
who has NEVER made a political post or shown a bent toward any
political party or the other. RGC said he has seen a pic of the dead
body, thats enough for me. No one can say that the gov has never lied
to or pulled a fast on on the US public.
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TOPIC: TECH: Classic Stern Quicksilver Repro Drop Target Reset Issue
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/6ab63e396061bbff?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 9:46 am
From: Big12bus
On May 2, 9:48 am, Noahpdavis <noahpda...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> The issue I'm having is with the vertical 4-bank in the center of the
> pf. I've replaced all 7 drops in the game with repros from pinball
> resource. What's happening when the bank resets at the beginning of
> the ball is that some of the targets aren't staying up. The even
> stranger thing is that it appears to be the targets that are currently
> up that are dropping. For instance -
>
> If targets 1 and 4 are still up at the end of a ball (with the 2
> middle targets down), When the bank resets for next ball, targets 1
> and 4 will be down with 2 and 3 up.
>
> Initially, I had read that the repro targets are shorter and will sit
> below the playfield in the down position. When i first installed 'em
> it appeared that the targets that were not resetting were random. I
> read that someone "shimmed" the bottom of the drop assembly to get
> them to rest at the proper height when dropped. I gave this a try and
> while they are sitting at a more proper height (slightly above the pf
> now in the down position), the reset/drop issue became consistent.
>
> Adjust my "shim" height? Someone in another stern thread mentioned
> flipping part of the bracket around to fix the issue - anyone know
> what part they're referring to?
>
> Lastly - I replaced the 3-bank targets as well and they reset
> perfectly every time. No shims, no fuss.
>
> I am loving this game . . . definitely on par with my 9-ball.The flow
> of the return lanes to spinner shots is killer! And sweeping the 4-
> bank to the left spinner, or sweeping the 3-bank to the right is very
> satisfying.
>
> Thanks!
The key is you have to grind off the reset plunger to the same length
as the difference between the old target and the new target. The
problem is with the shorter target the reset plunger only going to the
same height does not get all the targets back on the shelf. Take the
plunger off and remove about 1/8 of an inch. Either with a grind
wheel and or file.
That should work. My recommendation after 15+ years restoring classic
sterns is try to use the original targets. New targets will never be
as snappy as the old targets and are made of a harder plastic. Which
has issues. The spinners on Quicksilver are also critical. Sand
the edges, debur the bracket, tweek the switch and use graphite on
them. My QS has some of the best spinners. I can get over 200 spins
per hit and both will be going at the same time while the ball is
moving around the playfield. Great stuff, great game.
Here is a picture of mine after restoration a few years back.
http://usergallery.myhomegameroom.com/gallery/album142/2005_0801Image0071
http://usergallery.myhomegameroom.com/gallery/album142/2005_0801Image0070
Good luck. Bill
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TOPIC: Tech: Flash Drop Targets Not Resetting
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/287eceda27d384ee?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 9:51 am
From: dragonberg
ted wilson;1688008 Wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have a picture of a working 5 bank target from a flash?
>
> Mine does the same thing also, I just have not gotten around to fixing
> it. Mine seemed hacked up, I sent out a request for a pic, and have
> it on file. Send me an email and I will forward it to you.
>
> Ed
Hi Ed,
Im sorry I do not see an email author button, it seems to be disabled
in this forum or perhaps your settings?
Thank you for your help
--
dragonberg
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TOPIC: Anyone selling a Bally ELEKTRA Pinball at Allentown?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/eeccd100d720c71f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 9:52 am
From: "Gameroom-Classics.com"
Anyone selling a Bally ELEKTRA Pinball at Allentown?
Thanks
Rob
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TOPIC: PINFEST any new updates? cannot get a reply from Ivan
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/0d03c06a8338ca4d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 9:54 am
From: Stavs
On Apr 30, 9:13 pm, Sk8boss <b...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Last I talked to Ivan he decided to expand the free play area to
> accommodate SEVERAL more machines. I am sure he will try to be in
> touch as the show is really coming together. If you registered online
> dont worry, if your expecting a call back get in line! His phone rings
> constantly for questions that could be answered if you go online.
> See you all at the show!!!
Chris-You bringing Radical to the show? If I could get mine out of the
basement easily it would be there.
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TOPIC: Las Vegas pinball at the Rivera Hotel
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/fbec7f94410c7d25?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 9:56 am
From: silverball
I agree, the Rivera is a dump. I go to Vegas 2-3x a year, do NOT stay
at any off these places: Tropicana, Excalibur, Circus Circus,
Riviera, Flamingo, Harrahs, Imperial Palace, The Plaza or Polo CLub.
They are all dumps. I usually stay at MGM, Mirage, or New York New
York. If you join their M Life card, you will usually get 3 nights
free every month. I havent paid for a hotel room in Vegas for years!
Even if you did pay for a room, its only a few bucks more, and PS, if
this is your interest, The hookers that hang out in the lobby of MGM
are alot better looking then what you see walking the street by the
Riviera
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TOPIC: WTB: White Water cabinet decals
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/bf6b1528dcfb4f41?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 9:57 am
From: "Jeff Rivera (jar155)"
Anybody have a set? I need both cabinet and backbox decals. If you
have something, shoot me an email.
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TOPIC: FS: Brand New Multi Products Oscillating Motor - $45
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/t/684f1a5b88364461?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, May 2 2011 9:57 am
From: kickback
This is a 12 volt motor assembly that could be easily retrofitted and
then used in a Bally Black Rose, but it would run a lot slower than
the original cannon motor. This one is a 4 rpm while the original is a
10 rpm. It is Multi Products spec #3312A.
You would need to pull the outer crank arm assembly and install it on
this one to use it in your Black Rose. Definitely a nice alternative
to $225, and up, for a new motor.
Shipping is extra.
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