Re: 2.5.5 release soon

On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 05:00:58 +0300, Ron <ron@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 02:53:57PM -0700, Robin Dunn wrote:
> > >I've said it before, I'll say it again... with the exception of few
> > >preview releases *ALL* wxpython releases from the 2.5 branch proved
> > >just  as stable as 2.4.2.4 yet many people still remain with 2.4.2.4
> > >because  that is "the latest stable release".
> >
> > Yep.
>
> Part of this is a distribution issue.  It may seem initially paradoxical
> to realise that wxPython at any given moment is generally more stable
> than the library it is 'built on', but anecdotally it seems to often
> be the case.

I think is due to the glue.... a lot of problems get caught in the glue  
layer ;)

> That makes things hard, because pressure comes from the Python community
> to release the underlying lib before _it_ is ready.

you'll never be able to make the lib "perfect"... that's why I think  
scheduled releases make sense. They impose discipline too... (1-2 months  
API freeze before release would be great).

> wx2.5 is certainly not a stable library, however 'bug free' wxPython may
> be.  You seem to be confusing these two things.  All wxPython releases
> are **by definition** 'stable' -- ie. we don't change them any more.

Again with the glue.... I think wxpython "stability" is due to the lack of  
the low level bugs, is due to the marriage with python ;)

> Hopefully the C++ library team will move into the mode of testing and
> careful changes that have been employed here for the last several months
> once it is declared 'stable' too.  At least the last minute API changes
> should slow a little I hope, and the chances of a tagged release actually
> building will increase...

sometimes too much freedom can hurt too. Dictatorship is good if the  
dictator is a benevolent one ;)
I don't understand how project management issues can "degrade into a  
flaming tornado of death" when is crystal clear, at least in my view, the  
fact that Robin has the best overview of the wx project since he works  
full time on it, his opinion should weight a lot more that the opinion of  
any other developer. I'm not saying that he should slice and dice as he  
pleases BUT his position should prevent the flaming. Let them vote on it  
if they think themselves as democratic.

my 2 c.

>   Ron

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