RE: Automation vs. DSLs (was: Development: A Structure d Problem Area?)

I have had users (real bona fide users) who wanted to write their own queries.
No kidding.  The danger comes, of course, when they start to write their own
updates.

Getting users to write their own SQL is really simply a matter of frustrating
them with non-responsiveness.  If you starve a man, eventually he'll learn to
fish on his own ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Jeffries [mailto:jeffries-GO6AC1RsmrqsTnJN9+BGXg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 6:22 PM
To: pragprog-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [pragprog] Automation vs. DSLs (was: Development: A
Structure d Problem Area?)


On Tuesday, June 22, 2004, at 3:55:33 PM, Frohnhofer, James wrote:

> (1) SQL has been so remarkably successful with end users because 
        
>         A) its syntax creates mostly readable sentences.

>         B) its primary metaphor of rows, tables and keys is consistent,
pervasive
> and easily grasped.

On what planet is it true that SQL has been successful with real end users?
I don't think I've /ever/ encountered real end users who weren't getting
their SQL done by DB specialists.

Ron Jeffries
www.XProgramming.com
Mixed metaphors are a bright sunny day with no paddle.  -- Phlip





 
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